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Lucille Bingham

Mr. John & the Alcoa Staff: Many thanks for keeping us informed about the status of the camera. We Eagleholics really appreciate all that you have done & continue to do to keep this project going. Sorry to see that the camera can't be easily fixed from the ground. By posting those absolutely wonderful photos you continue to keep us from terrible withdrawal pains! Those photos are a great fix for Our Empty Nest Syndrome! It's great to be able to see "Our Babies" all grown up into such a "Magnificent Trio" and taking so well to the freedom of flight that they now have! You all must be so proud of them and their Mom & Dad.
Mr. John, are you a professional photographer? If not, you should be. Your photos are just so exceptional and your dedication to this project is exemplary! Sure hope Alcoa appreciates you as much as we do! Again, many thanks to you and all who have made this such an awesome experience!

Mavis

6:50 EDT

Mr. John..thanks for the update on the camera. Too bad you can't just unplug it for a few minutes and it will reset itself when you plug it back in. That would be too simple, wouldn't it?

We are happy that you update us on the babies. I am dreading the day that they will be gone and you will no longer be able to see them. I bet you hate to see that day come too. Anyway, thanks for trying to get 'er done today.

cherie

http://eagletrak.blogs.wm.edu/2009/08/15/azalea-vs-hope-the-whimbrel/

I thought y'all would enjoy this article. I saw one that told of another eagle who had ventured more than 8000 miles also. I wonder what makes some so adventuresome and others such home bodies?har

cherie

oopoops. I read the article wrong - Hope is not a eagle. Sorry - I'll try to find the other one.

Tom and Deanna Miller

To the Alcoa Staff: We just want to ditto everything Lucille Bingham wrote! She has summed up exactly how we feel about all your efforts with the eagle family. We have really enjoyed watching the eagles on a daily basis and are looking forward to the next batch of eaglets! Thank you! Thank you!

Tracy Vigus

Mr John,
Each one of the Eagle Family Followers is ever so greatful that the previous storms did not "set off a circuit breaker in the camera"... Wow, the blessings we have enjoyed right here on this site is so wonderful. Those eagles are fabulous and what a blessing the experience has been for my family...the many times each day that I had to take a look at them and check out the blog. My small grandchildren even enquire upon walking in my door "we want to see the Alcoa Eagles" OMG... darling. At first they were nearly afraid of the looks of an eagle, now they want to see with glee. I show them you tube videos as well, but the Alcoa guys are it! So thanks for the blessings and we shall check back in regularly. Be safe if going after the camera is needed.

Judith Hart

JC....This is your big chance!! Volunteer to reset the breaker in the camera....You can then nab the turtle shell, and while you're up there, get me the notochord.

Lucille Bingham

Judith, Great idea! JC is fast becoming our in-house tech expert so he should be able to help fix the camera. What do have to say about that JC? I'm sure Mr. John would love to have some help! And while you're up there getting the turtle shell and notochord, could you look and see if there are any eagle feathers around? I have been collecting wild turkey feathers and it would be great to have an eagle feather to add to my collection! :)

Judith, how are your doggies doing? Especially Mandy!

Judith Hart

Lucille, One day Mandy seems interested in food and eats a few bites, the next day she runs away from the food when it's time to eat. Not good!

Cindy Munger

Mr John has learned how quickly photos make this group happy. Smart man.

John Kinsey


Judith - Lucille - I would love to be the one to reset the circuit breaker but I already have a commitment that day (whichever day that is). Besides Rodj has already volunteered as he so often seems to do.Right Rodj ?
But he probably shouldn't try to save an Eagle's feather - I read somewhere that it was illegal to possess one - even if found - don't know if that's true tho.

Judith Hart

I wonder if an eagle feather looks any different than a turkey feather or any other large feather. HUH!!

Lucille Bingham

Judith, So sorry to hear that. I know how that must pull on your heart strings! But I also know that you are doing everything you can to keep her eating and as comfortable as possible. Hope she can survive her ordeal with the cancer. Have you discontinued all the chemo treatments? She and all your other rescues are so very fortunate to have you as "Their Mom." God bless you!
As I feed and play with my Dobies, I think about you and what you are going through. One of my Dobies has cardiomyopathy and is on several meds twice a day, so it is important that he eats regularly. Sometimes he gives me a hard time about eating, and like you, I do all that I can to make sure he gets enough food in him to help coat his stomach before he gets his meds. I want to make sure that I'm doing all that I can to keep him alive as long as possible. He seems to be doing rather well with the meds. He is almost ten years old and such a good dog. I tell him all the time that He is the "Bestest Dobie" and a true Southern Gentleman. When we heard about his unfortunate situation, my husband actually drove all the way down to South Carolina "to rescue" him.

Lucille Bingham

Judith, That's exactly why I want one! I wonder the same thing! Have you ever seen a turkey feather? Some of them are really very pretty! I'll have to take some pictures of them and post them on our Nesters Nest site. If I can ever learn how to do it!

John, You have me wondering now if it's true about Eagle feathers. It kind of makes some sense since they were once on the Endangered Species List. There might have been the fear that people might kill them to collect and sell the feathers. Does that make sense to you.

I wouldn't want to get anybody in trouble, so I won't ask Rodj to look for any feathers.

Mavis

Judith...that was genius! re: JC and the turtle shell.

Mavis

GN everyone

John Kinsey


Just checked on the nest - screen is black but not to worry. I saw a faint flicker of light down in the lower right corner and zoomed in. Turned out to be Mr. John camped out in a tent with a lantern and his super camera equipped with night-vision lens just in case. MR. John - YOU are the BEST !


GNA - and especially Mr. John.

Lucille Bingham

John, Are you serious about Mr. John camped out below the nest? :) I am naive enough to believe you and I can really imagine him being out there to check on things. He is so dedicated that it wouldn't surprise me if it were true!

Goodnight and pleasant dreams! You need your rest so you can help him fix the camera in the morning! And don't forget to retrieve the turtle shell & notocord for the ladies!

Mavis

6:11 AM EDT..Tues, July 3rd..

Good Morning everyone.

I am lost in thought because there is no video and no one to talk to but me. I wish we knew more about these beautiful eagles that I got to know for the first time this year. Someone mentioned or I read that the first four months after leaving the nest, many of the eaglets don't make it because of survival/hunting skills. I heard the Dollywood eagles already left and they are several weeks behind ours AND they were removed from the nest at 5 weeks. IMO, they don't have the chance our babies have.

Question: If Liberty or Justice came across an eaglet in trouble, do you think they would drop them a fish or help them? We would...but would they? We know they do what they have to in order to survive and feed their family. They hunt/steal/scavenge, and they don't waste. They take only what they need. They seem to stay to themselves. But would they help another eagle in trouble? And..by the same token..how many times have WE made a poor choice in trying to help someone we thought was in need?

I've been wondering about this and thought maybe someone has read or observed something.

Catherine

Good morning Mavis - In response to your question, I found the following blog post by Scott Mehus at the MN bound site.

"Once the young have left the territory for good, they start life on their own. They often congregate with other immature birds and learn from each other, picking up new techniques for hunting. A big part of the mortality rate for these birds the first year of life is due to their inexperience. They don’t necessarily know what to do or where to find food that first winter. About 50% of the young hatched this year will not make it to next summer.
If these birds do make it to the next spring, they will not be welcomed back by the parents. Parents will actually run them right out of their territory, just as they would any other eagle. The parents are working hard to raise a new clutch, and want to limit the competition for food in the territory. Immature eagles are on their own, and until they are five or six years of age have no territory of their own. Once they get the complete white head and tail, they will be fully adult and ready to breed. Only then will they seek to carve out their own territory and defend it fiercely."

Based on Scott's post, it doesn't appear that they would normally help a juvie in trouble. Maybe Justice and Liberty will be different. Perhaps, ourjuvies will help each other.

Mavis

Catherine...my GUT was telling me that Spirit, Hope, and Faith would reach out and possibly help a stranger but not Liberty or Justice. I have nothing to base this on..just a feeling. The way the eaglets tend to leave a 'bite' or feed a bite to each other feeds that thought. It is comforting to know that they may 'hang out' with other juvies and learn from each other. They certainly have a tough live for their first 4 to 5 years. It would be nice if they would hang together and help each other through these years.

Thanks for the info.

Tammy

I want to think and believe that our three will hang out together until they find the love of their lives and then seperate but get back together on holiday's and birthday's. Yep, that's what I'm going to believe.

Morning all!

Mavis

Tammy, I like the way you think! I hope it turns out that way.

Catherine

Me too!

Cindy Munger

JC It is true about possession of an eagle feather or it was. Native American issue especially when DDT was wreaking havoc with the shells. Feather were scarce at that time. Not the same re: turtle shells. However, my kids followed in my footsteps when I heard the other day that my 30 yr old son pulled his car over and rescued a turtle just like I did when he was young. Ran out in the road, picked it up and got it safely across the street. What can I say; I raised a bunch of turtle huggers!

Cindy Munger

Mavis,
As I understand it, the babies will stick by Mom and Dad for a number of weeks, honing their hunting skills before taking off to find out "who they are and where they fit in this world". Mom and Dad expect them to be around for lessons and to make sure they are eating their veggies. They won't leave the area until they are confident in their skills or Mom & Dad Alcoa escort them out of their territory, and I sure cant imagine Dad Alcoa doing that to Spirit considering how he watched over him. So on those issues I feel confident they will do well. Faith and her evil eye will probably scare to dickens out of someone enough for them to drop any food item that she is after. ( Can't you jest SEE this happening?)
I think I worry more about electrical stuff that they are unaware of. I hope Lady Liberty teaches them well in that area, and I hope it is done before nestorations start. Isn't that thought EXCITING?
I wonder if JC will make a trade on that turtle shell hmmm

Cindy Munger

Me three or whatever number is next.

Lucille Bingham

Good job of parenting, Cindy! I wish every parent would teach his/her children to love & respect Mother Nature and her creatures! Too many kids today have not been given that valuable lesson.
That is why I believe this site and all the other live videos of Mother Nature at Her Best are so important. They have given us a close-up look into the wonders & marvels of God's & Mother Nature's creations! Just think how this site has been able to bring so many people and their families together in such a positive way! And I'm sure all the other sites have done the same, even though, THIS ONE IS SIMPLY THE BEST! One of the many reasons we all respect & admire Alcoa & Mr. John! Don't you agree?

Lucille Bingham

Tammy, I'm going to hang on to that belief also. Can't even think about them going their separate ways!

Lucille Bingham

Catherine, Thank you for sharing the info about young eagles. So sad to think of the reality of their lives until they become full grown adult eagles in all their magniticent splendor! Sometimes I wish that Alcoa would have placed monitors on "Our Babies" but after seeing the eaglet with the transmitter on his/her back I'm glad that Alcoa didn't attach anything that might interfere with their complete freedom!

Elizabeth Rieder

7/3/12-------ET sort of--------
Just reading the post of everyone wondering about the eaglets life after the nest. While we are wonder and what if-ing about these guys,I bet they have been on to those hunting and fishing skills. Have you notice when we could see the nest that Liberty was there one day waiting for someone to eat her fish. Then after a while she ate from the fish. The visits with food have been less and less. They would drop a small fish if someone was present and one of the babies would grab it and keep it mostly to themselves. A few rare time you saw a parent feeding one of them. I read somewhere that the eagles have to get real hunger and will be primed to fish or hunt,but when they are not successful L/J will give them some food to hold them over. This not a game or movie to them, it is survival. Look back at some of the Alcoa videos of that juvie in the nest in the winter months.That does not have to be one of their babies coming back to the nest. It is a young eagle digging around in a nest because they think there is a scrap of food there and they are not finding fish or rodents that they can catch.The point is it can be any juvie and any nest, because they remember that skill from their time in the nest. I know we like to think in terms of our values and lives,but now the joyful and ugly part of being an eagle start.
Until they survive to that day when they have that beautiful white head and tail feathers and are ready to breed,it is a bloody uphill battle for any juvie, sometime not very pretty. So Faith can look stern and I hope she is, because it is a life and death struggle all the way.
We expect the worst and hope for the best with these guy,they have a good start and now it is up to them.

Lucille Bingham

Mavis, Just now catching up with the posts and I'm sorry to see that you felt so alone this morning! I bet if you went on Our FB site you might have found someone to chat with. I was up almost all night so I did sleep in this morning( working on my own survival skills) but not enough to catch up on most needed sleep! My Dobies and Artie kept me awake for hours and then they actually had "the nerve" to keep me busy for hours this morning! Wasn't that very inconsiderate of them especially since I tend to all their needs all the time? :)

After reading Catherine's info about young eagles I have become saddened to think about what might happen to "Our Babies" and we will never know! I have been trying not to think of the time they will depart from our sight forever. As I'm sure you & all the other eagle watchers are doing too. Have a great day!

Mavis

Lucille, your first post was well said! All your posts are. This experience has certainly been a wonderful eyeopener.

Cindy..on coming home the other day..the truck in front of me stopped..in the middle of the road, he stopped. I figured it was a rattlesnake he was out to kill as they are crawling to dry ground. I was wrong..it was a gopher trying to reach the other side of the road. I didn't see the gopher until he picked it up and toted it to the other side and set it down. I honked my horn and gave him a thumbs up! I loved your story of your son doing the same thing.

beamg

Good morning everyone. We still have a black screen I see. I'm beginning to think Libby was right when she said this could be the push we need to get back at those projects we've put on hold for so long. At least for me that would be a good thing.

My area of Iowa is under a heat advisory until Sat. morning and that includes the nest area. We're even being told it could be changed to an excessive heat warning before Sat. So many areas of the country are having this heat so please everyone stay cool and hydrated! I did manage to get some catch up work done outside this morning while drinking lots of water. It's currently 86° with 59% humidity. With the heat index it's going to be over 100°!

It's been interesting reading everyone's comments, especially the thoughts about our eagle family. I will forever think of these 3 doing well and soaring above us somewhere! I've read, too, that it's illegal to even keep an eagle feather that's found on the ground. I wouldn't want to try to make someone believe I found a feather when they would certainly suspect foul play with eagles on the protected list.

I sure am glad we still have our power so the AC is working fine. Wish I could share with east coast states that are still without power. My nephew in MI works for Consumers Power and was asked to go on a crew to another state to help out. I'm not sure where exactly but he has done this before. Isn't it great that we have such helpful crews all around the country that are willing to leave their own families to help somewhere else?

Ok, time to get something else accomplished today. I'm anxiously awaiting an announcement that Alcoa has tee-shirts ready to commemorate our 2012 family!
BBL

beamg

Libby, are you getting that ice cream today? It sounds delicious!

Judith Hart

I've read somewhere that the longer they stay with their parents after fledging, the better their survival rate.
Those that just take off and leave the area after fledging, perhaps because of lack of food, not a good fishing area, never learn the hunting skills from their parents. I'm sure many don't make it because of starvation.

So, my next question is....in case anyone knows.... What happens to all the eaglets that they take from their parents and release from towers. Didn't they remove the eaglets at dollywood? I wonder what their survival rate is for one year.
..


Sherri

AVIAN PROTECTION PLAN (Just doing some research after the news of D12)
Raptors (including hawks, eagles, osprey, falcons, kites, and owls) and other birds are often attracted to power lines and use power poles and towers as perches and nesting spots. Unfortunately, a bird with a large wingspan that lands on the cross-arm of a utility pole can be electrocuted if its wings contact two electrical components. Since 1988, Southern California Edison has operated its Avian Protection Program to protect birds from electrocution and prevent power outages.

SCE's Avian Protection Plan consists of three main strategies: modifying lines to be "bird-safe," reducing bird mortality, and protecting active nests.
Under the Avian Protection Program, wherever a raptor electrocution has occurred or where a problem area has been identified, power lines are altered to prevent contact with dangerous equipment. In addition, SCE installs platforms on some structures to give raptors and other birds a safe place to nest.

If an active nest is found on a distribution pole or other structure, it must be moved if it presents a safety hazard. All field employees are trained in avian protection and are required to report these nests to our biologists in Corporate Environment, Health, and Safety (CEH&S) prior to attempting to move or work near them. If an active nest must be moved, SCE biologists work with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS) and California Department of Fish and Game (CDFG) to obtain proper authorization. All necessary steps are taken to minimize disturbance to the birds.

To enhance its Avian Protection Program, SCE has developed a geographical information system (GIS) database to show where wildlife electrocutions occur and determine any trends. Other measures include more training of field personnel and planners, a unified reporting system for transmission and distribution, and systematic bird protection surveys.

To report a dead or injured bird, or if you have other avian concerns or questions, please contact Kara Donohue at kara.donohue@sce.com or call (626) 302-5528.

Christy

Thank you for posting the info Sherri. For those of you who don't know, D12(oldest of the Decorah eaglets)was found dead from electrocution at the bottom of a power pole on Sunday. D12 fledged a week or two after the Alcoa eaglets. Very sad news for the eagle-watching community...

beamg

Sherri and Christy, thanks for the info. I did not know about D12! I try to stay away from the Decorah site because I just don't like it as much as Alcoa's nest but sure don't like hearing of the death of D12. Very sad indeed. Good to hear about companies that do watch for power lines that might be a hazard to raptors and do something about it to prevent more accidental deaths.

Lunch time at my house and I'm hoping Faith, Hope and Spirit are having lunch in the shade someplace!

bbl

beamg

Judith, before I forget again, good luck with your surgery on the 9th. Hope it all goes well and your dogs cope just fine while you are gone taking care of yourself.

TTYL

Ev Reker

Thank you so much, appreciate your input to let us know what is going on. Seems the eaglets are learning and doing well. It has been quite an adventure for our family.
Thank you again, Ev Reker

Judith Hart

Christy....Was it the one with the transmitter?

Judith Hart

Thank you Bea....

Pam

I have really enjoyed watching these little ones hatch out and grow. It has been truly amazing. Thank you for allowing us all to be a part of this.

Christy

Judith, no, that is D2. D12 was the first hatched from this year's clutch. S/he had just fledged a couple of weeks ago. Apparently it was seen sitting on top of a pole not too far from the nest, and older poles can be hazardous. More info on Raptor Resource Project's facebook page. :*(

Judith Hart

That's just too sad.

Catherine

So sorry to hear about Decorah's D 12 being electrocuted. Yes, they face many obstacles their first year, but I believe that we had exceptional parents in Liberty and Justice and our babies chances are better than most. After seeing the photo taken by Mr. John of the three of them flying in a circle with such glee, I am convinced that they will help each other through the next faze of their learning.

I am thinking of contacting the power company here to see if they have instituted any safeguards like they have in CA.

  Mavis

Judith...exactly!! Someone said those eaglets are now gone and they are several weeks younger than ours and were removed from their parents at 5 weeks of age. I wonder about them too.

Libby...your post was great! A lot of thought and truth went into it.

Beamg...YOU didn't forget about the strawberry ice cream but I did. How is it, Libby? I like the strawberry part but don't care for the crust so I wonder how it is in ice cream.

Geeze..just came in from grocery shopping for the 4th. You could fry an egg on the road!! Water still high in many places and the mosquitoes are loving it!!

Laura Tafelsky

Thank you Alcoa. Isn't it amazing how watching these three magnificent creatures has made the world a little smaller as we, together, all watch them grow? And how isolated it is without the camera. Happy 4th of July to all!!

Mavis

Sherri, that was VERY informative. I figured their wing span played a big role in the electrocutions. Glad to see the power company in CA is try to help protect our birds. Thank you for sharing.

Mavis

Christy..you said D12 of the oldest of the Decorah eaglets...and they fledged a week or two after the Alcoa eaglets. Are you talking about THIS YEAR's eaglets? That is not the one with the transmitter is it? So sad. Really is.

Mavis

Christy, I went to the FB site and wish I had NOT. The picture of D12 looks so much like Spirit. It just made me cry. So sad, and she/he looked so sweet. I hate it so much.

Cherrycarol

Thanks Mr. John for all your help & all the photos. Im going over there tomorrow in hopes to see them. I agree with everything Lucille said in the first post. Lucille you know how to say thinga very well!! Carol

Judith Hart

Mavis....Pay attention....I just asked her if it was the one with the transmitter....She said the one with transmitter is D2.
Are you the one asking when their heads and tails turn white?

Tammy

ok, posting here and on the FB site. I told you I've been watching the sky much more since seeing our Alcoa site. I thought a few times when I was outside I heard an eagle, but keep in mind, I don't know my bird calls. just now, while out there, I see this huge "dark" bird flying above and around my pond, as low as it is in this drought. How do you know from a distance if it is in fact a juvenile eagle or another big bird such as a hawk or something? There are bald eagles in the area but not really close but since they do travel, maybe I did in fact see a real bald eagle? I sure hope so but would like some form of id.....

Tammy

Mavis, about frying an egg on the road, one of the meteorologists here put a cookie sheet of cookies in his car, in two hours they were done to perfection. today it's only going to be 99....cool front

Mavis

Judith...dang it..I asked her BEFORE I saw your post!! Besides..she didn't answer me..she answered YOU! HECK NO!! I am NOT the one asking when the heads turn white! Where are your 'happy' pills? Geeze..I'm going for the punch!!

Mavis

I just bought some spareribs for tomorrow. I'm going to bar-b-que them in the pressure cooker. I have been wanting some and they are fall off the bones good when I cook them that way.

Rod just went to Decorah and saw the eaglets, I think last weekend. He is going to be upset when he hears about D12. I just can't unwrap my head from that one dying.

I hope everyone stays cool and safe tomorrow. Sure hope the electric is restored to those without.

Peggy W

I cannot express how much I personally have enjoyed watching the lives of these exceptional creatures unfold. Thank you so very, very much! They are magnificent. You have been so caring to share the pictures of this wonderful family throughout the rough times. Thank you again! Wishing them and you a Happy 4th of July!

Cherrycarol

I just asked Rod if he got a picture of D-12? I'm so sad too!! ;( Lets pray our 3 have a happy long life!!

Sherri

D14 is the one with the transmitter. She has received instructions to stay off live power poles and to stay out of thunderstorms. She was last seen recharging batteries on transmitter as per instructions.

Elizabeth Rieder

ET---
I can only hope our three eaglets will survive our world of wires,paved road,car and glass building. I am surprised that they can adapt to mans "stuff" so well. It is sad when we hear of a eaglet juvie getting into trouble and hurt or killed. I want to believe they will fly to a wooded area away from buildings and man, near a good stream of fish and of course there will be that special someone that is suited to them,Happy ending.
I marvel that L/J set up a nest in the place they did,I said it before, these are urban eagles.They are nesting technically in town. I figure the draw was the river,the little streams, tidal pools and locks that at in that area.They were lucky to find a small wooded area that seemed remote from the human activity with large trees that would hold their nest,we sometimes forget those nest can be 100s of pounds plus. The juvies may stick around there for a while,but there will come the time when they will strike out on their own and hopefully will avoid the man made dangers. God speed with all your little personality and crazy ways,when the cool wind blows and lifts you up there like that picture Mr John snapped. That is such a bitter sweet picture. We are happy to see them together like that ,but we know it is good bye to mom and dad.

After getting over the shock of my grocery bill and my double electric bill this afternoon ,I had a big dish of "Strawberry pie ice cream." I celebrated the fact that I had enough money in the bank to pay my bills,I am in a clean,cool apartment and I have the meds and treatments I need. There are so many right now who do not have this luxury.I wish I could share with them, but I can't.I don't care or require all the extras that folks seem to think they can't live without. I do know there may be days lots worst in our future. I was a child of the depression,so I know how to make do and not get my self in bind over what I think I should have. I thank God for what I do have and sleep soundly at night.
Beamg and Mavis, there are chunks of crisp pastry,swirls of whipped topping and real whole strawberries in strawberry ice cream. As the saying goes " we eat all we can and sell the rest,the best ice cream in the country,Blue Bell" Does not take much to make me happy, just a bowl of good old Texas "Blue Bell" from the hill country.LOL

Elizabeth Rieder

Sherri , you are some thing else. I can have that picture in my mind every time I see these poor things with the transmitters. I do get a bit of pleasure when I read that some eagle removed the transmitters with their beaks.LOL "What is that crazy thing on my back,I am going to bite it off"

beamg

Ahhhhh, Libby, you're so good with words! I always enjoy your posts. And you got your ice cream, too! Sounds just yummy! Stay cool in hot, dry Texas.

Mavis, you stay cool, too! Anytime you can fry an egg on the road it's too hot to be out!

Judith, great link re: turkey vulture vs bald eagle!

Tammy, let us know when you confirm what you are hoping you are seeing. That would be so awesome if you have a juvie so close! You stay cool, too.

Everybody stay cool and safe, and have a HAPPY JULY 4TH!

Sherri

@Elizabeth: I can't help it. I have jokes for D14. Especially when I saw the antenna and reminded me of the antennas I see on some vehicles. My biology major daughter does not like the tagging of animals. I tried to argue the other perspective for her, but she is 20 and set in her ways, lol. She recently had to do a tagging experiment on those rolly-poley insects, with white-out of all things! Anyway, she hated the class, hated the tagging, and did not pass the class :) I would hope that all biologists look for humane ways to tag animals so that we can learn about them and protect their habitat. In the meantime, I miss Faith, Hope and Spirit, but know that John will provide us with pics.

As for D14, we will always have GPS coordinates.

Cindy Munger

Lucille,

I do agree. I used to have so much fun with my kids and all of the turtles that we tried to get across the street. I'm really glad that at thirty, my son is still doing those kind of fun things.

We had a red shoulder hawk (not red tailed) that had nested on our property and I talked my husband (at the time) into climbing the tree next to the one with the nest and take pictures for me. Before he had taken the pictures I had to tell him it was okay because "Mama" came back and I thought he might have talon marks on his head if he didnt get down. Little did I realize at the time that he jest might have deserved those talon marks that day, but that is another lifetime. It was nice having the hawks pick up the snakes in the yard for me though.

  Mavis

Libby, I asked if you LIKED the Strawberry Pie ice cream...I DIDN'T ask you to describe in detail every darn bite of it!! I'm glad YOU are enjoying it! I really am, Libby. You don't get many sweets with your diabetes so I hope the ice cream was well worth the wait and more than you expected!
Enjoy, dear friend.

Wal-Mart, (and I'm sure a whole lot of other stores) sell small FROZEN boxes of Chudleigh's Apple Crumble Blossoms. They come 2 to the pak and are individually wrapped in cellophane. You take one out of the cellophane, put it in a bowl and microwave for 60 seconds. Then I drizzle caramel syrup over the top and spoon Blue Belle Homemade Vanilla ice cream over that and my gosh..don't bother me till I'm done!! I don't usually buy stuff like that but when I am home alone and sometimes want "something" sweet at night..that fits the bill real nice. I was in Publix today and wouldn't you know..they didn't have any so I'll send back to Wal-Mart for some the next time someone goes there.

Mavis

You have a HAPPY 4TH, too, beamg! And Thanks!!

VroomGrrl

Hey John, I join the chorus of appreciation! It's so great to see the young eagles enjoying their newfound freedom - just in time for Independence Day! So if going up in the bucket to fix the cam is not your thing, I bet hanging around on the ground documenting the process would be right up your alley? Thanks for all that yall do and have a great 4th!

Catherine

Apparantly little Linux miscalculated when he tried to fledge about an hour or two ago. He ended up on the ground but did not know how to get back up to the nest. He has been rescued by OWL (Orphaned Wildlife) and will spend the night in rehab. They are hoping to get him back into the nest tomorrow.

Catherine

Taden from the Decorah Ustream site.

We are very sorry to announce that D12 is dead. D12 was found electrocuted at the base of a power pole on a Sunday morning. We notified the power company, who modified the top of that pole on Sunday and several other poles in the area on Monday. As of this morning, they are continuing to identify and modify poles to make them raptor safe. If you find an electrocuted raptor or other bird by a pole, take it to the nearest wildlife center (if it is still alive) and contact your state DNR or local game warden and the utility company that owns the pole. You will need to:

1. Provide information about the dead or injured bird.
2. Identify the nearest pole to the electrocuted raptor by the pole identification number (on the pole itself) and local landmarks such as cross streets or street addresses (if applicable).

Include as many specifics as you can regarding the species and the incident. If possible, take photographs of the raptor and the pole to submit with your reports and notes.

Power lines themselves are not an electrocution hazard for birds (birds can and do sit on wires), but unshielded poles can be dangerous. The Avian Protection Plan Guidelines include information on raptor safe poles and modification of existing poles. New structures are fairly safe, but older poles may not be. Older poles may have been installed either before people were aware of electrocution hazards to wildlife, or during the decline of raptor populations in America, when interaction was less likely.

Lindy Shull

Thank You so much Mr. John and the Alcoa staff foe letting us be a part of such a wonderful experience. I live in North Carolina, I have enjoyed so much watching these babies grow!!


Cindy Munger

That makes me sad about D12. The Decorah birds fought and were not as well mannered as our three, but it still makes me very sad to think one of them has died.

Have a safe and happy holiday everyone.

Cherrycarol

HAPPY 4th of JULY EVERYONE!! STAY COOL!! FLY FREE D 12. U WILL BE MISSED!! CAROL

Darlene Nichols

HAPPY BIRTHDAY AMERICA ! .............and to the Alcoa Corporation and most particularly the people of Alcoa who have made this wondrous yet everyday event such a huge part of our lives.......THANK YOU ! !

beamg

Happy Birthday Hope and the USA! How special that Hope gets to share our country's birthday!

Enjoy the day everyone and stay safe and cool!

ALCOA - The nest this year has given so many people so much pleasure and such a great learning experience that we all owe you a great big THANK'S FOR THE MEMORIES!

Cherrycarol

HAPPY BIRTHDAY HOPE. I went over to Alcoa & saw one fly into a tree but didn't get a good pic. THANK YOU ALCOA & JOHN FOR ALL U HAVE DONE.

Elizabeth Rieder

HAPPY 4th everyone,enjoy the day and stay cool and safe too. Thanks to Alcoa for this site where we can learn about eagles and wildlife that live among us and we never get to see up close and personal.The photos that were supplied by Mr John R.
Wonder what our forefathers that signed that paper, would think if they could be transported to our world today?

Lucille Bingham

Happy Fourth to All of You Eagleholics:
In case you didn't see my post with the link to an ecard in celebration of today, I am posting it again so you can view it and get an eagle fix for today!
Go to the following website: http:www.jacquielawson.com
Then click on the heading that is labeled Pick Up Card
Then type in the following code: 3550250843706
Hope you enjoy the card!
Have a wonderful & safe Holiday!
Stay cool & dry, if possible!

Jackie S.

Happy 4th to ALCOA, fellow eagle watchers, and to Liberty,Justice & all their babies :)

John Kinsey


As we celebrate this Independence Day, we should all remember that Freedom isn't free.This day is a good time to acknowledge all those - including families - who have sacrificed,suffered and in many cases paid the ultimate price so that we may live in this great country of The United States of America.

Lucille Bingham

Mr. John, Hope you are able to enjoy this Holiday and get a well-deserved break from all of your duties at Alcoa. Maybe you will get a chance to see "Our Magnificent Trio" in flight enjoying their Freedom as we Americans enjoy Our Freedoms! Have a Great Holiday! Be safe, cool & dry!

Christy

Mavis, yes, D12 was from this year's eaglets. The one with the transmitter is D2 from last year's clutch, and she is doing fine. D12 was the first hatched and first to fledge this year.

Christy

Happy 4th of July to all of you! I have really enjoyed watching our babies grow at Alcoa, and have enjoyed reading and occasionally posting. Liberty and Justice have done an outstanding job as parents. Mr. John, the pictures are fantastic and they really show how beautiful and magnificent the eaglets have become (though they were beautiful from the time they hatched!) Looking forward to more pics and also to next year's babies!

Christy

Apparently they have put a transmitter on D14 from this year as well as D2 from last year. Of the three eaglets in Decorah, D14 was always the most vocal and the most mischievous! He was the one that knocked the night camera loose a couple of weeks ago, so we couldn't see anything after dark! I'm sure following him/her will be a wild adventure!

All this talk about Strawberry Pie Ice Cream has me wanting some! I wonder if they sell it in the Columbus area?

Mindy Gibson Frey

I am so, so sad. I just heard about Decorahs D12 baby. Sorry little fledgling. I did watch you 3 on occassion. You guys/girls were naughty! lol Sad day.... hope our 3 are doing good and having fun flying high and free!

Elizabeth Rieder

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Christy, I wish I could say it is sold in that area, but not so. It is sold in 13 states mostly south.There is a plant in Brenham,TX,one in OK city and one in Birmingham,AL. I believe it is sold in Kansas City,but that is it.The reason is Blue Bell is only sold where a refrig.truck can reach the store from a production plant in a day. It is never warehoused.They believe in fresh ice cream, They joke that the ice cream you are eating was grass a couple day ago. They also have a rotation list of special flavors that some I like and some not so good. The old standard Vanilla is really my favorite,unless I can find Pumpkin, or maybe Colorado Rocky Mountain(sort of like Rocky Road)
IF I was a rich Texas I would send you a dry ice package with your favorite flavor and anyone else that had a hankering for some fresh ice cream. Oh well dream on and settle for one of those other ice creams. some of them are pretty good. Only difference is they have been sitting in a warehouse for a month.

John Kinsey

This is a brief update in celebration of an Eagle's freedom and independence and hopefully what "our" Alcoa Eagles may experience.

D1 - the Decorah eaglet which fledged July 2011 was fitted with a locator device (which hasn't seemed to have slowed her down).Her positions have been tracked and plotted since then.
She remained in the approximate area around Decorah until August at which time she began a northbound journey.She arrived at the southern end of Lake Superior,remained a few days and decided it was time to return home.She headed southbound and was reportedly visually observed and confirmed by her tracking device in the Decorah area around Christmas 2011.
She remained in the general vicinity ± 150 miles until early May 2012. On May 3, she was 13 miles north of nest heading north - May 4 she was 58 miles north as she continued northbound - May 8 on sw shores of Lake Superior - May 12 crossed Canadian border into Ontario - June 14 arrived at the southern end of Hudson Bay in the Polar Bear Provincial Park,Ontario,Canada.Her last updated position on June 24 showed her still in that same area meandering around numerous sites. If she decides to go east, she would head toward Newfoundland - if she chooses to go nw she would fly across Canada,thru the NW Territories and Yukon and into Alaska. Perhaps she may decide to turn southbound and return to the cornfields of Iowa.Since she is now free and independent, the choice is hers.Her present position places her 912 straight line miles away from her nest but she has probably flown many times that.
I find it interesting to check in on her from time to time.The Decorah tracking site has many unique features including Google maps to follow her flight and visually see all the wilderness and rugged terrain,creeks and rivers and all the many sights she has been able to enjoy. Makes me want to fly as free as an Eagle on this Independence Day !

Cheryl

Happy Independence Day everyone!

I still say if these birds are going to be fitted with transmitters they need to be the small microchip type that is embedded in your pet in case it's lost. Nothing to hinder them in their lives. I think it's terrible to put a transmitter the size they use on the back of any kind of bird.

Lucille Bingham

Cheryl, I couldn't agree with you more! Those transmitters must interfere with the bird's freedom of flight. And they probably could get caught up in branches or even wires. With all of the technology available today you would think that they could come up with something like the microchip you mentioned. I feel so sorry for the eagles that have those awful cumbersome transmitters attached to their backs.

Lucille Bingham

John, Thank you for the info about the journey of the Decorah Eagle. As nice as it is to know where they go I wish they didn't have to have such a cumbersome device attached to them. Sometimes I wish we could track the journeys of "Our Eaglets." But I am so glad that they are not burdened with one of those transmitters. We just have to have faith in their ability to fly, hunt, and survive! They have done so well so far, sure hope they will live long, safe, and adventurous lives! I just read Cheryl's idea about a microchip and I really like that. I wonder if it is possible to create something like that for the birds.

Lucille Bingham

Elizabeth, All this talk about ice cream has made me want to go out and find some Blue Bell! But I guess living in Jersey makes it an impossiblity! Shucks! I'll have to settle for some supermarket brand to satisfy my ice cream craving for now! Hope you had a really nice Independence Day! Michael & I took advantage of his day off and we completed some chores that needed to be done ---- like replacing one of our air conditioners which wasn't working right. Can't complain though, since we are so very lucky to have air conditioners and the electricity to keep them going. I really feel so sorry for those who are still without electricity. I don't know how they can cope with this excessive heat & humidity! I know I can't right now. A few years ago maybe I could, but lately the intense heat & humidity seems to do me in!

John Kinsey


Cheryl - Lucille and others who are opposed to the use of the awkward looking radio transmitters . That was not the point of my post and I didn't intend to rehash that subject again. Don't you think that if a smaller device were readily available,it would be used instead ? There is a big difference between pet microchips that can be scanned in a vet's office and a radio transmitter that can send signals to a satellite,be interpreted and then relayed to a ground receiver for tracking information.I agree that the current system in use does look cumbersome and uncomfortable to the Eagles but I imagine some research has been accomplished to determine the use of them and their benefits. Hopefully a smaller and slimmer version with the same technology is in development and will be used someday.
Again,if that's all you came away with from my post,I failed to accomplish my intent.

Lucille Bingham

John, Sorry if you thought that was all I came away with from your post. Definitely not! I wouldn't want you to think I didn't appreciate the information you had provided for us. I really did appreciate learning about the distance our eagles can cover in their life long journey. That is truly amazing! I have always thought your posts were educational and often times very entertaining as well. I do think it is great that the travels of those magnificent birds can be tracked, but I wish a smaller and less cumbersome device could be created. As you have said, I'm sure much research has gone into the creation of the present device and hopefully a much smaller one will be available one day! I just feel so bad that the eagles have to carry that device on their backs and I now wonder if it hinders them in any way!

Cheryl

John, that is definitely not all I came away from your post. I'm sorry, those transmitters really bother me. I'm relatively certain if there were something smaller the people who use transmitters would use them. But I can't help but think how any smart phone has the capability for GPS, tracking, all sorts of things and the parts that make it possible for smart phones to be able to do those things are practically microscopic. I guess if the birds are being tracked for scientific purposes to learn from them, it's a little easier to understand. But not just so we can know where one eaglet traveled, just to know. Not worthy of doing that to them, but it is only my opinion.

  Mavis

Christy..it is 11:27 PM EDT and I just got in. I read your post and want to apologize..I was joking with Judith yesterday when I said you answered her and not me! Sorry about that. I joke with her a lot and if you don't know us, you probably thought I was serious. I am glad you cleared that up for me. I went to bed last night still thinking about D12. I didn't even know the babie but I still felt so sad. I looked in on the Decorah nest a few times but I never go to know one eaglet from the other. I was truly upset when I found out he/she died and was surprised how much it affected me yesterday. Thank you for your info.

Judith Hart

Here's an interesting article about tracking dragonflies...it's an older article but it tells how they glue the transmitters on, but the batteries only last two weeks.
http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S15/22/14A65/index.xml

Mavis

11:52 EDT

July 4th is almost over and I hope everyone enjoyed today. It has been a busy one for me. Ron took a load of ice up for the people who are without water, food, and electricity. My son and grandson had dinner with me and we went tonight to watch fireworks. I spent the morning cooking a big dinner (dinner in the South is usually lunch). It has been a long time since I bar-b-qued spareribs in a pressure cooker and they were awesome! I wish you all could have joined me, but I'm sure your day was every bit as grand or grander.

I miss watching the babies so much. I don't know how long it will take us to get back to our 'other' life. Heck, I even miss watching the empty nest. I certainly miss the sounds and find myself constantly listening for the babies to call out. If it doesn't get better for us..then Mr. John will have to climb the tree to take of picture of the empty nest!! I find myself anxious to know if the sticks have been moved!! Yeah..I know..I need a reality check..but..I LIKED the life I have shared on this site for the past 4 months.

Like I said, I hope everyone enjoyed their 4th of July festivities and made it home safe and sound.

Good night, everyone.

Elizabeth Rieder

Judith thanks for the article on dragonflies. The migration of all animals and birds and other wing creatures has a lot to do with our lives and food crops. I use to love to see the Monarch Butterflies in Galveston during that trip they take to Mexico or where ever south they go. Lot of them decided to stay on the island and there would be hundreds some morning in my little back yard. all over my Bird of Paradise tree and Butterfly flower vines on the fence. My poor dog SuzieQ would look at all those butterflies and whine and softly "woof" She could not figure out what those things were,but she knew they did not belong there.LOL

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