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Ruth MacLeod

Thanks for the information and the new picture of the nest. It looks bigger than it was last year.

Cherrycarol

Thanks for the picture.Have a good weekend too. Liberty was really peaking at Justice tonight. carol

Mavis

Thanks, Mr. John! That's two plus yard sticks..that's a good amount of room. It looks small from the cam but the picture you took looks impressive! It keeps growing in depth as the walls already look deeper than they were last year. Liberty and Justice are using a lot of sticks the size of small logs too!

If you really think about it. Birds are pretty smart to build a nest. I mean..they are not TAUGHT how to build a nest. They do it from instinct. They build the floor up too..I noticed several large sticks left in the floor and covered with straw. I wonder how many of us could build a home for our family from instinct. I'm afraid I would be looking for a cave!!

Sally Glowicki

Someone said they thought the nest is bigger this year. I was thinking the same thing. Can you imagine the time L & J (each year) have put into building it? Appreciate today's picture of the nest! I'm looking at a 3-foot high table in front of me and the nest is about 4 feet from top to bottom. That is deep! I believe that's what I read. Good night all.

Denise Cass

thanks for everything you do

Carolyn Groves

Thank you for the picture of the nest! Looking down into the nest didn't give a perspective on how deep it really is. WOW! I have become totally captivated by the view and with the updates you have provided. Again, thank you sooo much for all the effort you have put-in to give us this magnificent insight into the life of these wonderful birds of prey!

beamg

Good morning all. WOW what a great picture of the nest Mr. John! Thanks for all the info you provide for us.

I can't get the video stream this morning so hoping it comes back soon. Anyone else having that problem?

Darlene, was it you talking about the "shorthand" in the chats on some sites? I agree....hard to figure it out when I'm not used to all that. I too prefer this format and enjoy reading everything posted here.

Chuck, the link you provided yesterday about checking the power lines was breath-taking! What a brave guy and he's married, too!

Have a great weekend everyone.

Mavis

9:57 AM EST Dec. 1st

The cam feed is back on. No L or J in the nest but we do have the nest!! I noticed the "log" has been moved so they must have been there this morning.

Jo Ann

Thank you Alcoa for the updated photos of the nest. A big thank you to the electric company for fixing the power poles around the nest. It is really cool to see it from those angles. Have a great day everyone.

Elizabeth Rieder

Thanks for the great picture of the nest,giving us a real look at the depth and size.Mr John must have a vested interest in these birds since this site has become so popular with the world.We sometimes forget that we in our little group are only half the story. There are millions out there in school room and homes around the world watching this drama unfold. Liberty and Justice are real world wide stars now. I think Miss Liberty know it too,she is such a diva. Showing off her skills at building the nest, making everything fit,bossing Justice around. The sound is not on yet,but I can imagine she is vocal and letting Justice know who is in charge. Justice is faithful and devoted to her though. That is good for a lesson in our lives too,sticking with someone or a project until it is perfect. You can't watch this much without falling in love with these two.

beamg

YEA! I tuned in just in time to see Liberty take off from the nest.

beamg

And she's back with a twig.

Mavis

3:15 EST

Liberty was in the nest working on a new stick and rearranging. It has nagged me since the new cam and we started watching L and J again....Liberty seems different to me. She has two black spots now that she did not have before...even the nest looks different from the one Liberty built up last year. The first time I saw her...even before the spots were noticed...she just seemed different. Her beak and head...I guess it is just me. We used to tell them apart fairly easy without the spots...now we don't know unless we see the spots. It must be just me because I think Mr. John would have said something and Mr. John would absolutely KNOW.

One thing I feel confident about...there is not an eagle out there that can beat the parenting skills of the Liberty we watched through that storm last Spring. She became my hero that night! I am not trying to start "something", I just wonder if anyone else has had the same questions about our Liberty with the spots. I tell you what, a few weeks away from the kids can sure do wonders for your attitude and appearance... and this may be the difference I am seeing. Either way..you can't pry me away from this site!!

gregory

justice still has eyeliner-- he is the johnny depp of eagles

Judith Hart

I thought the same thing about the spots on Libery. When the camera came back on, she had spots on her head and the left part of her tail. IMIO if they were there before, we all would have been identifying her by them like we are now.
JC is good at enlarging pictures and identification, maybe he can look at some of the previous pictures.

Annette Kryske

I missed a few days because of computer problems ,I was absolutely miserable being away from our Liberty& Justice. After reading all the comments from you all, I am sooo happy to be back. I feel alive again.Now, I will be happier to see my little friends between 2 pm & 3 pm. Then my day will be complete. Thank You Mr. John for all your support. I too,love the way the lines are covered overhead. You & the workers did a great job!!!!

Annette

gregory

I have decided to reserve myself from any more future posts.

a matriarche is a leader-- not a chief and not a ruler. they are valued by wisdom and leadership! i was admonished on this one word by ignorant peoply who did not know the real meaning

several other admonisments follow on other topics.

then EAGLESONLY got irritated because basically he was not in the koop and did not know how to navigate quick;y thru unneccessary post. even though the topic had been discussed repeatly by MAVIS and myself on 3 different post.

then MAVIS-- who i thought was a sweet and gentle person-- cut me to the bone for no reason whatsoever except that i mentioned her name in an appropriate reference.

i responded to what i thought was an uncalled for admonishment toward our holiday remarks.

the poster was was not at all kind and it was very different compared to all the friendly remarks made in the previous months.

i am surprised at where some posters place their values and i am outa here. good bye

gregory

last word -- i was hurt -- i am not angry

Mavis

5"36 EST

Just checked in and both L and J are on the nest working hard. What a cute couple they are! Hope you are watching Annette!

Judith Hart

Forecast for Davenport, Iowa

Tonight A chance of showers before midnight, then a chance of drizzle after midnight. Areas of fog after midnight. Otherwise, cloudy, with a low around 53. South wind 5 to 10 mph becoming west after midnight. Chance of precipitation is 50%. New precipitation amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible.
Sunday Patchy fog before noon. Otherwise, cloudy, then gradually becoming mostly sunny, with a high near 59. West wind around 5 mph becoming calm in the afternoon.
Sunday Night Patchy fog after midnight. Otherwise, partly cloudy, with a low around 48.
Monday Areas of drizzle before noon, then a chance of showers after noon. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 65. Breezy. Chance of precipitation is 40%

Elizabeth Rieder

Talk about one stubborn eagle, Liberty will not let that stick win,ever! She has moved and chewed that thing until it was were she wanted it.

Annette Kryske

Dec.1 2:15 PM Right on the button!! Liberty is in the nest. Oh my how I missed her!Justice just flew in.I'm not sure who flew the coop!!!
Wish I could help with that large twig...Liberty just brought in another large twig.Both are working diligently.How many more will they need? The other nests last year, & even this year are not as well made as this one.Liberty just gave J
a love tap.How cute.Hope some one is taking a video of this.Looks like L is resting her rear on top of J.(shouldn't that be the other way ??Joke...there isn't much room for them to move around.L is back to that large twig.I too, see the spot on her head..Get it through that opening L'girl!!!L was in the nest the longest time today.35 minutes total. What a performance!!!How lucky can I be?Nitey nite L& J?
Annette

Elizabeth Rieder

Thanks, Judith for the weather report at the nest site. I for one enjoy knowing what it is like there at the nest.
I hope that Liberty and Justice has switched over to grass and leaves. They seem to have quite a bit of lumber on the nest now. With winter here, it might get a bit cold up in that tree.

Judith Hart

I found this under baldeagleinfo.com

Eagles molt in patches, taking almost half a year to replace feathers, starting with the head and working downward. Not all feathers are replaced in a given molt.

This most likely explains the spots on the head and tail. The eagles molt in July, August and September. I think the camera was out quite a bit during this time and we probably didn't notice the gradual molt.

Perhaps by January or February they'll be back in full plumage, the dark spots will disappear, and we'll be back trying to figure out who's who.


Anyone else have a logical explanation for it?

Mavis

Judith, you are so smart. I actually thought about molting as an explanation for the black spots. I looked up the molting process some weeks ago but couldn't find a lot of info on it other than the basic color changes from juvie to adult. YOU ARE PROBABLY RIGHT!! This is the best reasoning for the black spots so far, and the molt timing is right too. We have learned that eagles mate for life...so this HAS TO BE LIBERTY...she just seems different with the black spots. Her head is sleeker without the dirty look and molting would explain that too.

YOU ARE SMART, Judith!! You really are! (you owe me a quarter for that compliment..do you need my address so you can mail it?)

Judith Hart

Mavis, A Thank You will have to suffice.
I don't have a quarter to spare, have to save for the financial cliff.

Mavis

Judith..you have me laughing! I don't think I can save enough for the that cliff! I thought about parachuting off the cliff but I need that quarter for my parachute fund!! Seriously, good thinking to come up with the molting theory.

Mavis

Sorry...good thinking IN COMING up with the molting theory..

I bumbled that last sentence in the last post pretty bad.

Randy

Why are the new camera's pics so grainy. Pics so far are not as good as last years.

Judith Hart

Liberty and Justice both in the nest 8:22 AM EST

Mavis

Judith, what is that sitting to the left of that big stick in the center of the nest? Looks like a small bird that didn't make it out in time.

Cherrycarol

Sunday morning & good morning everyone. Liberty has been in the nest a long time!! 7"45 am central time. 60 today. I'm going out eagle hunting today!! Can't wait. Carol

Judith Hart

To the left of the center stick, just looks like a small pile of leaves on my pixelating screen. Occasionally I see a few colorful candy wrappers floating by.

Mavis

8:51 EST Dec 2nd

My internet connection must be slow this morning as I've been watching for 30 minutes now and I get 'buffering' and 'reconnecting to stream' every few seconds with interrupted pixelated movement. I thought I SAW her calling out a few moments ago. Justice has been off the nest for a while and she is watching something in the air. I think that is a small bird to the right of her feet but she is showing no sign of interest in it at this time. I really miss the sound as it adds so much to the video.

Mavis

Judith...you crack me up! I've been calling those colorful streamers every name in the book..leave it to you to call them candy wrappers!!

Carol, you always see the neatest things on your adventures out. Hope you come back with some good pictures! Enjoy your day, stay warm, and grab a good lunch.

Elizabeth Rieder

Good Sunday Morning everyone. Liberty has been on the nest looking for something or one in the sky. Justice late for a breakfast date with his best girl? Liberty look a little wind blown this AM. They are so entertaining just to watch them in the nest.Liberty must be happy with the placement for the sticks for a while. I have wondered about what it is like to be up there in the nest looking at the river,tree tops and people around on the ground. That must be the grandest view. Since eagle have such great eyesight, They don't miss much.

Chuck Howarth

I know it is a hard thing to keep working (sound), but it is nice when it is working.
I like to keep the video running in the background "on another page" and when you hear L&J calling, I just jump over to the video page. This way you don't miss as much..
Only saying.....
Hope they get the sound up soon...

Judith Hart

The turkey vultures are sitting in the Osprey's nest on the other Alcoa cam.
Here's the link............
http://www.alcoa.com/global/en/eco_alcoa/info_page/ospreycam.asp

Mavis

Judith, I just visited the osprey site and it is empty right now. That nest! Oh my! What a mess the vultures have made out of it. Couldn't help but notice the big limbs that are there. I think I read that the Alcoa associates built the osprey nest last year. I wonder if they will rebuild it this year or will the osprey do it. I don't visit there enough to know. I think there has been only one post since July. The area surrounding the nest is absolutely gorgeous!

Chuck, I agree with you. I can be in another room but when I hear a 'call' from L or J..I come running. I also love the sounds from the other birds around the nest when L and J are out. Its been so long since we had sound that I almost forget about it. I feel sure all the 'fixes' will be done in time for the egg event in Feb.

Annette Kryske

Dec.2 2:10 pm PST.Am at my station waiting for L/J to show up. (I hope).It was great watching them for over 35 min. yesterday...2:25 PM L?J just dropped in & is doing some gardening.Looks like a deeper whole in middle,probably for the eggs.Now ? is working on the twigs.Back to that big stick again.Looking from side to side to see if it is ok.I finally saw spots on her head,so it was L,she flew away.Only 15 min.this time it's getting a bit darker.Don't think they'll be back. Nitey nite my little ones.
Annette

Judith Hart

Thanks Annette for your nightly update.

Are you having flooding in your area?

Annette Kryske

No flooding around here. We've lived in our house for 56 years. Three years before these tract homes were built,this street was flooded,as well as the whole area, but thanks to great engineering.... They built a flood control channel , at least 15 ft high & maybe 45 ft wide,that empty out into a huge creek about a mile away,then out to the Pacific Ocean,which is about 3 miles west of where we live. Thanks for asking Judith. I love all your comments & Mavis's. You both keep me chuckling. Aren't our little ones a joy to watch????My computer was out for 2 days, & I was frantic,but I fixed it.Goodnight to y'all.
Annette

Carolyn

Good morning Folks, I wanted to post this last night, but youtube took a long time processing it. Hope you enjoy it, I really enjoyed Liberty's time on the nest, she is such a hard worker!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHmX4_zlmgs&feature=plcp

Judith Hart

8:20 AM EST

This morning Liberty? is having breakfst in the nest with a nice big fish.

Skip

I wanted to inform everyone that unfortunately there was a bald eagle shot and killed in our area (near Fayetteville PA, Greene Township)on Thanksgiving day. Someone found the injured eagle and took it to a local veterinarian, they tried to save him, but it was too late. Apparently he was shot with a lead pellet and the lead poisoned him. It is very sad to see that someone this cruel could shoot one of the most beautiful birds in the world.

Mavis

8:31 EST

That is a big fish. She is calling out..I wonder if J is close by. She seems more interested in what she sees in the sky than in the fish. L is calling out again...I think Justice must be circling overhead. Wish I could see what she sees...that would be so cool! More calling...Mr. John...sure miss that sound but glad to have the picture. A bad hair day with a lot of wind and picture pixelating. Liberty has been standing is the same spot for over 30 minutes now with the fish still laying at her feet.

Mavis

Skip...that is hard to accept..the cruelty some people have. It is so awful to lose one of these beauties to electrocution..but for someone to shoot one on purpose? OMG! And for what reason? Just for the fun of it? I wish they could catch the shooter.

Mavis

9:16 EST..

Now this is interesting...Liberty flew off for a few seconds and is back. A better look at the fish and this is the interesting part...I have NEVER seen Liberty or Justice eat a fish starting in the middle! They have ALWAYS eaten the HEAD FIRST !! This fish is an absolute mess in the way it is being eaten. L and J are always so neat in the way they eat their fish. I think this may be an intruder eagle and not our L or J! THIS IS NOT THEIR WAY OF EATING A FISH...totally not their mannerism!!

Mavis

9;23 EST

Carolyn, if you are there..you need to take a video of the way this eagle is eating the fish! This is not L or J...no way..THIS IS NOT THE WAY THEY EAT THEIR FISH! Any regulars watching? Please comment.

Lucille Bingham

Mavis, I just tuned in and I see what you are saying, but I'm never sure who I am watching. You are so observant. You might be right, but I hope not because I wouldn't want another eagle to take over the nest that L/J have worked so hard to restore. Maybe something inthe area has got the eagle more concerned about what is going on around the nest than eating the fish as usual. Wish there was a way we could tell for sure!

Lucille Bingham

EWvery now & then the eagle eating the fish moves in such a way that I can see what I think are the dark/black spots on the white tail feathers, but the pixelating makes it really hard to tell if it really is Liberty.

Mavis

12:32 EST

I've been watching for signs of L or J but have not seen another eagle since the fish was eaten. I am pretty sure the fish head is still in the nest at the 2 o'clock position. It is sitting to the right of the large stick that runs diagonally from 12 to 3 o'clock. I am also pretty sure that was an intruder eagle in the nest that ate the fish earlier.

Carolyn

Mavis, I am so sorry I missed it! I have been having computer glitches all morning (sob!) I need them to do a replay!

Mavis

Carolyn...I was so hoping you got that!! The picture pixelates so bad that I know it is hard to get a good video. I'm sure this was an intruder. If I am right...that was one brave eagle! I wouldn't want to tangle with an upset Liberty! Hope your computer is running smoothly now. Thanks for trying, anyway!

Cherrycarol

Skip If they can catch who shot that eagle they would procacute him to the fullest!! Mavis Darn I didn't tune in this morning. I know ther r some pic on OT. I went to Sunset Marina & saw 5 adults & one juvie there yesterday. So there r other eagles around for sure!! Carol

Elizabeth Rieder

Mavis do you really think that was an outsider? That would have been a sight to see,if Liberty or Justice was watching. Who ever was eating the fish must have clean his plate, because I don't see any left over.One thing I never noticed before, up in the very high left corner of my screen, you can see the river. At first I though it was sky,but angle is not right.

Annette Kryske

Dec 3 1:45 PST/Just as I turned on my comp.there was an eagle in the nest. I did notice the top of her head had a slight black spot, & the tail had her spot. It was Liberty.I have no idea when she arrived, she left after a few minutes.It is now 2:30 & no signs of our little ones. I will close now just to let you know I did see Liberty. I am going to sit by the computer & read until after 3 , when it gets darker there,& I know they won't show up. Be calm all will be okay.They have our prayers.
Annette

Sue Ann

Good afternoon, all. I think it's Liberty in the nest grabbing the last bit of nestovers from the fish this morning. What a joy to watch them. (3:38 MST)

Annette Kryske

2:35 PST> L?J is in the nest .I missed a few minutes. It is just checking on the grass, no stick moving yet.Can't tell who it is yet.Darn buffering is hindering my view.C'mon baby put your head up,so I can see!2:45 It flew away, boo...I will hang on station,till it's dark.
3:00 ..Pretty dark in the nest. Sleep well little ones. Nitey Nite to all.

Annette

Sher

I've had no luck seeing either Liberty and/or Justice for a very long time...

Is there a certain "time" I should check in..or..is it just pot luck? lol

Mavis

6:17 PM EST

I was away for a while and just checked the cam...the fish head is gone. I wasn't here to see what happened to it but by Annette's and Sue Ann's observations, I assume Liberty found and took care of it!

Sher..I luck out sometimes, too, but early mornings between 7:30 and 8...or late afternoons between 5 and and 5:30 (EST) have been popular times to see them. Annette is the one who really "clocks" them and she is on PST. We have sightings throughout the day but that is "pot luck" timing!

Sue

Annette, Mavis & Carolyn, I saw the fish this morning very briefly before work. Some some picxelating but not horrible. Saw the spot on head and tail and assumed it was Liberty, but I will never claim to know this pair like you all. There was no head on the fish that I observed, but "liberty" was eating from head end first very politely. I will try to be in less of a hurry and more observant.

Sher

Thanks Mavis for the reply and info...

Mavis

Sue, we must not be talking about the same fish. I captured a screen shot where she/he is standing on the head of the fish and the center where she/he started eating is a mess! Wish I had a way to post the picture so you could see it. I don't know how CaJ does it. Anyway, the head was left behind after the eagle departed. Several hours later, the head was discovered and eaten by Liberty...I did not see this but Annette described it. I watched this eagle for about an hour this morning and did not see the spots we look for. A couple of times I THOUGHT I saw a spot on the head.. but it would disappear and reappear with all the pixelating taking place. I could never decide if I saw a spot or not as it was never clear. What a mystery! I watched L and J eat a lot of fish...but never like the way this one was eaten this morning. I really think we had an intruder on the nest. I guess it doesn't really matter, but it was interesting.

Sue

Very interesting, Mavis. I think it would be important if another e is trying to move in on L & J. It's early enough that L & J would probably be able to take care of it, but would worry if we were closer to eggs. I'll try to post whenever I see someone in the nest. Have a super day.

Sue

I think it's Justice in the nest right now. 6:07 am MST

Sue

Both here now. I think I was wrong. Now that I see them both Liberty was first. Justice paid a brief visit and flew off. Liberty is doing a little stickorating.

Annette Kryske

Dec.4 7:00 am.In the middle of the night,I started thinking about L/J.Could the intruder you were talking about be one of the past pips of Liberty's????Just a thought. Good Morning to you all. I will be back this afternoon at my regular station.

Annette

Sue

Hi, Annette. If Mavis was having a hard time distinguishing, I'm guessing the eagle was way to mature to be one of L or J's. Their young would only be at the oldest two or three and would not have much white on head or tail yet.

Mavis

Annette, you do hold these eagles (L and J) close to your heart don't you? I think I remember someone posting your same thoughts a few weeks back. L and J have not been nesting at Alcoa long enough to have adult offspring. I THINK this spring will be their third year on the nest. It takes 4½ to 5 yrs before eaglets get their white head and tail feathers. I don't know if they nested anywhere before the Alcoa nest. I remember Mr. John mentioning last season that he saw other eagles in the area and wondered if another eagle nest could be close by. I'm not sure what close means but he was going to look the Alcoa property over for that possibility when given the chance. Cherrycarol reports that there are other eagles in the Quad City area. Since the nest is located only yards from the Mississippi River, the nest makes for a great opportunity for a visiting eagle to enjoy a fish lunch. I do hope that one day, we will see our precious Hope, Faith, and Spirit once again. Yesterday was a fun day to see the stranger in the nest!!

Annette Kryske

Mavis & Sue....
You probably are correct about my comment. Just a thought. I realized that there are many eagles out there. J
ust hoping it might have been one of Liberty's. Hope we get to see them them this afternoon.

Annette

Chuck Howarth

@ Elizabeth Rieder: (Quote: One thing I never noticed before, up in the very high left corner of my screen, you can see the river. At first I though it was sky,but angle is not right.Un Quote.)
I believe what you see is the roof of the building that is below the nest, there was a picture posted earlier of the building with the tree/nest in the back ground (I can't find it now, it has the lift in the picture that they were using to replace the camera).

Mavis

Chuck...go to archives..Jan 2011 and scroll down..the picture you refer to is there. That picture is how I located the nest tree on Google. I think CaJ posted a great picture (via of a link) a week or two ago showing a different view of the building near the nest tree.

Cherrycarol

Mavis & Sue. JC posted some pictures on Other Talk. Sue u can join us on there if your on facebook. We post a lot of pictures there. Go to Nesters Nest to get accepted into the group. It's fun! Carol

Cherrycarol

Both were in the nest for awhile 4:45

Annette Kryske

Dec 4 2:25. PST. I was just gpon to write BooHoo, when Liberty & Justice flew in. I was delayed getting on station at 1:45,How exciting to see them both. I did notice a very light dark spot on Liberty. They are just looking around. OOps they both flew the coop. The nest is dark now. Nitey Nite All. 2:55 pm PST

Annette

Sally Glowicki

December 5th at 7:35 am Eastern Time, no one on the nest this morning. Watched for 15 minutes but no activity!

Mavis

7:40 am EST

Both parents in the nest

Sally Glowicki

Finally, J & L are on the nest at 7:43am 12/5. They are puttering around...not sure what they are doing. One is tugging down into the bowl as if trying to pull something out. Came up with nothing. If their kisses are pecking beak to beak, then liberty got three of them just now. Don't you wonder what they are thinking? Guess they are going to hang around but I must leave. Have a good day, L & J!

Mavis

7:54 EST

Justice just flew off leaving Liberty alone in the nest.

Chuck, I have to tell you that I think Libby (Elizabeth) is correct about seeing the water. You have to go to FULL screen to see it. In the TOP LEFT CORNER and I mean the top left CORNER..you can see waves or white caps. You cannot see it unless on full screen. I've been watching for days to see what she saw and this morning it is evident that she is correct. I see the white caps or waves of water in the 10-11 o'clock position just to the left of the limb in the upper corner. Kudos to you, Libby...it takes a sharp eye to spot that!!!

Sue

Good morning! I think Justice is in the nest getting his feathers ruffled by the wind.

Mavis

8:18 EST

Liberty just flew off...she looked golden when the sun hit her a moment ago. It gave her a glow which made her look awesome (which she is anyway)!

Cherrycarol

Mavis & Libby r right. It is the river u see at the top left. The camera points west & the river is on the left side of the picture & we did have white caps the past few days. Carol Have a good day All!!

Chuck Howarth

The angle of the camera looking at the nest, continues down, as marked by the red line in my photo, will show the roof in the upper left of the camera shot at the site, not the river...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/WrongNo2/Tree.jpg

Mavis

Chuck, you can see what I believe is the roof top at 9 o'clock position. YOU CAN SEE THE RIVER in the extreme upper left CORNER when in FULL SCREEN mode only. I saw the white caps moving this morning. As a matter of fact, I just looked again and the white caps are clearly seen. The river is just beyond the building. Look again...you will see it....extreme upper left CORNER..small area but clearly visible.

Elizabeth Rieder

That's ok Mavis and Carol. Mr. Chuck H.has his say and picture to prove what ever,And looking at his picture you CAN NOT see what the lens capture in the wide angle.JC pointed out that this little section I saw of blue was water not sky as I remarked a while back. The river is there, I don't plan on getting into a cat fight over something like this which I saw from the lens view. The new camera does carry a slightly different view of the nest and background. The thing is we are happy to have this camera to watch Liberty and Justice as they prepare the nest penhouse for their new eggs(aka eaglets)

beamg

It's now 10:26 AM CST and I can see the River in the upper left corner with the sun sparkling on the water! Thanks Carol for confirming that. I can see it best when I click on that green box below the video. That box will change the picture just enough to allow the river to be seen.

Since I haven't been watching for a few days now, I want to thank everyone for the posts that tell exactly what's been going on so I can picture it. All of you eagleholics do a terrific job of that!

Ok, now I'm ready to see L&J for myself but I don't think this is the right time of day. I just love how that east (left) side of the nest is built up so much more than last year. Looks safer so maybe we won't have to freak out when the babies get too close and we fear they will go over the edge. I'm just amazed at how much L&J have lugged into the nest to build it back up and add to the height of what it was last year. Happy viewing everyone!

Chuck Howarth

If this is what you are calling the river with white caps?
The white line in the picture under my top black line is the gutter on the roof of the building. As it has never changed, and I don't think a river would have white caps that never change.
I rest my case..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/WrongNo2/roof2.gif

Chuck Howarth

Mavis, can you give the coordinates from Google Earth of the nest...

Judith Hart

Just sitting here laughing hysterically.
If I remember correctly, about 8 months ago, we were going to meet at the restaurant across the river from the nest.
I spend hours and hours trying to locate it on Google, then pop, one of the posters, a gentleman, gave us the exact google coordinates. There it was, the nest in the tree.

Yes, the good ole days, when we were going to cross the river to see the nest. First we were going to row across the river in a row boat,....then it was a satellite dish, then we were going to rent a boat.

REMEMBER...............

beamg

Judith, I sure DO remember all of that! Oh, the things posters thought of as ways to get to the tree with the nest. So funny!

Chuck, I don't have those coordinates but I might be able to help decifer the picture you posted. The "Line" right below your top black mark looks to me like the top rail of a chainlink fence on Aloca's property. On another picture you posted, you referred to the top left side of the nest, not the whole cam picture which is where the rest of us have been seeing the river. I have to admit that right now the river does not look visible without the sun shining on it. IMHO, the best time to see the sun shinning on the water is in the morning. Does this help?

Wow! Look at all those visitors in the nest! Looks like a whole flock of sparrows, busy busy busy!

beamg

Ok, now I'm not at all sure they are sparrows in the nest. A couple were on the Branch and they look too big to be sparrows. Judith, do you know what they are?

joefromnc

Chuck.....you certainly may rest your case thinking you are correct but your case conclusion is inaccurate..The first problem is that you are not looking far enough up into the top left corner of the screen, Maybe you have a small monitor or it just doesn't show what other people have been describing to you. If you can see diagonally ABOVE your TOP line toward the very top left CORNER of the screen- NOT IN BETWEEN your two so well placed lines in black (although I think yellow would have shown up better due to the high contrast of the surrounding objects )...THAT IS THE RIVER which certainly does change and show light reflection and wave action. Once YOU find the river and watch its BANK for hours ,I would agree with you that the location of the RIVER BANK does not change, at least not in such a way that would be perceptible to the human eye.
So far as your theory of the white line being a gutter..I would respectfully disagree with that also..The roof of the small building located under the nest is visible on the top edge of MY screen..just beyond the edge of the nest at approximately the 12 o’clock position . ..I can’t discern a gutter line. My personal opinion is that the surface with the white line on it is either a parking lot or driveway with white paint edge striping. Just my opinion and I don’t think any of the posters are calling that the river.

beamg

Chuck, I'm sorry. There was not a another picture as I referred to in my previous post. What I was thinking of was actually on the same picture with your black lines on it. That's the one that indicates an area too close to the nest to be the water. The rest of us were referring to the very top left corner of the EagleCam picture, the whole picture, not just the nest. I hope you don't feel like I butted in, I just wanted to help clarify seeing the river.

Judith Hart

Chuck, Between your 2 black lines is a drive or something that appears wet at times, at first I thought that was the river, it's not.
Where your top black line sits is on what I think is a levee. The river is to the left of that.

Mavis

Chuck...I give up. What you show in the picture is NOT what I am talking about...LOOK IN THE CORNER! I mean THE CORNER..THE LEFT CORNER and do it with FULL SCREEN..the water MOVES..THERE ARE WHITE CAPS..

If you were putting a puzzle together and you had a top left corner piece..that is where you look! I just checked and the wind is not blowing as much now so you won't be able to distinguish it. I can because I know where to look. When you see it for the first time...the white caps need to be there and they aren't right now. Yes...the CORNER I look at changes! This is so funny! I looked for two days before I finally saw it, Chuck..it's not easy to see but when you do, you slap yourself on the knee and say, "*@#*& ! How did I miss that?"! The whole area of water that is visible is the size of the tip of your thumb on FULL SCREEN! Hang in there, fella...when you see it..you're gonna cuss too!!

kc

There really is a good pic of how close the river is under archives Jan, 2011) like Mavis said , scroll down to the bottom dont know how to repost it.. Can definately see the river today in the very upper left corner just sparkling away :)

joefromnc

After all this, if Chuck doesn't see it now, he either has poor vision , a very small monitor or is just one who wants to keep things stirred up.

To anyone who gives him what "they" think are the nest coordinates...be prepared for another disagreement and discussion. IMO

beamg

PSSST! ADULT IN THE NEST AT 4:44 CST. Hope you're watching Annette.OHH, now they are both there!!!!

Annette Kryske

Dec. 5, 3pm PST. Been waiting for over an hour, & at 2:45 L & J showed up. They both seemed very distracted by something, & stayed maybe 15 minutes or less. I was on station, but they did't accept most post, as I was waiting for over an hour I did see over 14 little guys exploring the nest at 1:45.I am happy to see L and J. Have a nice evening y'all.
Annette

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