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Mavis

8:04 AM EST 25th FEB

Looks like Justice is enjoying the morning sun and relaxing in the nest. I hear birds chattering and saw a little sparrow on the right side of the nest wall. Looks like new nesting material was brought to the nest this morning. Looks to be a great day.

Today is a special day for me as it marks the birth of my oldest child. That is what this (nest) and everything else is about, isn't it? The circle of life! What a special way to embrace it...with this eagle cam! Thank you ALCOA!!

Good morning everyone!

beamg

Good morning all! Am I really the first to post today? There's that glow from the sun on the nest, making it look warmer than it is. Beautiful all the same! Looks like Justice on the eggs.

Who asked late last night about when mom began sitting on the eggs in earnest. If I remember correctly, it seemed to be within hours of laying the second egg. Since that was around 6 or 6:30pm I think I noticed the next day she was sitting most of the time from then on.

I just love this time of the day...a new beginning every day and peaceful. Happy viewing:)

Mavis

Oh beamg...I waited about 5 or 6 minutes to post hoping someone else would be first!! Looks like we both pushed the post button at the same time! I wish Mr. John would switch posts...make mine #2. I like your morning greeting much better!

You have a good memory about the second egg. I first saw the eggs at 7:48 PM..but it was reportedly first seen around 6 or 6:30. I have notes on the laptop...someone told me I stay confused so I keep notes on the important stuff!!

I just LOVE the morning nest sounds..I hear geese flying over now..just a honking! The other morning I heard the bird chirping and thought my cam was off and needed refreshing so I went to the computer to see and it was off. Couldn't figure out why I was hearing the birds..DUH!...they were chirping from my OWN YARD!! No..I don't STAY confused...just sometimes.

Maybe Mr. John will switch my first post to #2..I would like that!!

Judith Hart

EARLY MORNING FACTS ABOUT BALD EAGLES

Are you aware that a bald eagles body temperature is 106°

Body Temperature - About 106 degrees Fahrenheit (41 degrees Celsius)

Eagles do not sweat, so they need to use other cooling methods such as perching in the shade, panting, and holding their wings away from their body.

Tolerance to cold temperatures - A bald eagle's skin is protected by feathers lined with down. Their feet are cold resistance, consisting of mostly tendon. The outside of the bill is mostly nonliving material, with little blood supply.

beamg

Hey there Mavis, I knew you had to be there! Glad you are. I am really grateful the sound is working this time of day! Soon I'll be able to enjoy those sounds in my yard..........just as soon as it warms up! And, assuming I can tear myself away from the nest! 22° out there right now. That storm that is suppose to cause trouble starting sometime tomorrow can just go away!

beamg

Good morning Judith! I'm learning again...didn't know 106° is the body temp.

Mary

how many eggs?

Cherrycarol

Good Morening ev ery one. Another beautiful day at the nest. I'm sohappy for these days.Happy Birthday to your son Mavis. Lots of errands to run today. I'm glad it's not snowing today. Happy eagle watching. I'm going to stop by in IL. & see if I see them. Carol

ERIEDER

That is a good one Mavis, Good Morning to all the early birds,no punt intended. The nest does look beautiful in the first sunlight. Justice is singing that little soft eagle song,not loud just can hear it. Well we are coming up fast on the hatching, can't wait. All you folks up at the crack of dawn be sure to record what is happening with those two dear eggs. I woke up to a howling blizzard here on the west Texas Plains, it is old happy to be retired kind of day. You all east of me will be getting some of this tomorrow. Stay safe and warm. Enjoy the moment with our eagle family,it will change quickly.

Cherrycarol

2 eggs. I learned that the eagles in the south like Florida are smaller than the ones up here or in the cold climents. Bigger means more protection.

Mavis

JUDITH!!! I loved the morning lesson! Hope you do that every morning! What a nice way to start the day!

I didn't know about the 106° either...thought it was 105°..(JOKING!! JUST JOKING!!..calm down Judy)

Good morning Cherry...you should be called Cheery because that is what you always are..and I'll be looking for your eagle pictures on NN!

beamg

And a good mornign to Carol and ERieder! Stay warm in Texas! That storm can just stall out somewhere between you and us.

When I was in FL and visited the nest in Ft Myers, I noticed that pair was smaller. But still pretty awesome being so close to them and seeing them live! Eagles are a treat to see no matter where we run into them!

Judith Hart

Beaming....Here's another fact for us all...

DID YOU KNOW THAT AN EAGLE CAN OPEN, CLOSE AND ROTATE IT'S FEATHERS .......

Bald eagles have 7,000 feathers. Eagle feathers are lightweight yet extremely strong, hollow yet highly flexible. They protect the bird from the cold as well as the heat of the sun, by trapping layers of air. To maintain its body temperature an eagle simply changes the position of its feathers. While an eagle suns itself on a cold morning, it ruffles and rotates its feathers so that the air pockets are either opened to the air or drawn together to reduce the insulating effect. Feathers also provide waterproofing and protection, and are crucial for flight.
Feather structure makes pliability possible. Overlapping feathers can form a dense covering, which the birds can open or close at will. The bald eagle has several layers of feathers, each serving a different function. Under the outer layer of feathers is an inner layer of down or smaller feathers. The interlocking of feathers is an astonishing design of nature.
Birds puff up their feathers for various reasons. They puff them up while preening; to insulate themselves to changing temperatures; when they're relaxed; to make themselves appear larger when threatened; and when they're ill.
The feathers enable eagles to live in extremely cold environments. Eagles do not have to migrate to warmer areas each year to fulfill temperature requirements, they migrate to available food supplies

Mavis

Beamg..That is the ONE thing that puzzles me the most about the Ft. Myers eagles...WHY ARE THEY HERE? It is so hot in FL..especially S FL and they are equipped to do so well in the cold climates. Why are they here? We saw that the eagles last year seem to struggle more with the higher temps than they do with the winter weather. The insects plague them in the warmer weather, too. We have good fishing areas, but so do other states. So why come here? Wish I knew.

Libby, (E Rieder), I was wondering if you were in the middle of this storm. I guess I could have checked the radar but nicer to hear from you instead. Glad you can stay in and watch the cam...oophs..offline! Go fix breakfast...I'm sure it will be back up in a minute.

beamg

Mavis, I can't explain the eagles in FL but I think every state should have them. After all, they ARE our national bird! Yup, offline. Off to do some chores but my sound is up and should alert to coming back up. bbl

beamg

Thanks again Judith! I did know some of the facts in your last lesson but sure didn't think far enough to include all the reasons birds fluff themselves up. Truly a miraculous creation!

ERIEDER

Judith that is amazing about the feathers. Thanks for the information. I was remarking yesterday about Liberty looking like a feather covered basketball. I think she was getting her feathers in the cold weather suit mode. Mavis, I am hunkered down and warm here. I did stick my nose out to see if the bird food was gone,but everything is covered in snow so that will have to wait. Don't want to slip and fall on the ice and snow. My helper just cancelled,she has kids out of school today. I am ok and just being lazy today. Got my coffee pot going and enough food so I am a happy camper.

Kathryn Mellecker

Why are eagles in Florida? Because the FOOD is there. Fish, fish and more fish. And a little road kill to wash the fish down. I do think at one time these magnificent birds were found in all the States. Perhaps they will be again. Wouldn't that be great!

beamg

And we're back online! JUDITH I saw that yellow dot move when the cam came bak up!!! It had like a "sighting" cross in it and it was right about at the center of the famous branch! Now it's gone completely. Did you see it?

beamg

Good expanation Kathryn! Makes perfect sense.

I just saw an amazing zoom in at the DNR nest. One egg appears to have a crack in it. Now a parent is back on the nest.

Annette Kryske

6:40 AM PST Good Morning America, It looks like another beautiful cold day in Alcoa Land. Liberty is doing her resting, the trains are zooming by & I just woke up, & here I am ready to start another gorgeous day. Thank you all for the Eagle lessons. I think that is what gets me going in the morning these days Elizabeth, it is so good to see a comment from you. Haven't seen too many this early.Stay warm.Time for some of Leon's fresh coffee.Birds are chirping.

Suzanne

beamg...Good Morning everyone and what a fun fact-filled conversation. I am in a state of wonderment. Yes, beamg, you did indeed see one egg on the DNR nest cracked, quite a long one (full length of egg and quite wide) with dark grey appearing inside. They zoomed in while parents were off nest and I had just tuned in...couldn't believe my eyes. Mom or Dad came back, pulled nesting around them and sat. They were very affectionate yesterday and Dad very busy bringing in more nesting material. Could it really be, after all this time that they will get at least one eaglet? Today will have me glued to laptop watching what in the world is happening.

Jo Ann

Judith, thanks for all of the info. Some of the teachers at the school I work at put on the Alcoa Eagle Cam for their students. A first grade teacher told me the other day, the kids got excited when they saw the eggs. Thank you to Alcoa, too, for providing us with this experience. Yes, Mr. John, we are all holding on, waiting for the little gray bobble heads to appear.

"Pumpkin"

Judith, when doing your eagle research, did you ever come upon information concerning egg viability? When I first started watching the nest last February, I was surprised to see that L & J began incubating the first egg shortly after it was deposited in the nest whereas other egg laying species that I was familiar with do not begin to sit on their nest until the final egg has been laid so that their clutch all hatched out at the same time. I finally decided that as chickens, ducks, and geese all hatch their young in warmer weather, it must be the viability of the eggs in frigid temperatures that causes eagles to spread out the hatch dates despite the advantages given to the oldest eaglet in the clutch. Can you confirm?

Suzanne

Mavis...sorry I got carried away with the site of a possible hatch. Meant for my first words to be what a special and wonderful day for you. Does one ever forget the day they became a mother for the first time? It is an unexplainable emotion that goes deep in your heart and never leaves...a blessing on your day MOM and also on your son's. Bask in the joy of this day and savor every memory it brings.

Hi Pumpkin...happy to see your with us.

Jo Ann

Justice just flew in.

Judith Hart

Pumpkin, I believe what you're saying to be correct...The longest, I think Mom and Dad were off the first egg was 20- 25 minutes, and I think that was only one time. Longer you would probably have a frozen egg.

We could all do an experiment. Put an egg outside tonight...my temps tonight will be 26° in NC....temps in Davenport will be about 28° (What? Warmer than me) I've never tried to freeze an egg before, but I'd be curious to see if they crack at that temp. ( guess I could put one in the freezer)It would be a good experiment for children also.

Judith Hart

DNR NEST....They had a close up of the band on the one eagle....First I thought I saw
# 583 then I thought I saw #569 Third close up thought I saw 529....it was pretty blurry or my eyesight is bad. They were moving the camera in and out....hard to catch.

Suzanne

Judith...yes, I saw what you did. That is the female and the DNR has been waiting to get a good look at her band # so they know who she is...age, where banded etc. Also, there are now 2 eggs cracked with grey showing. Dad has mainly been on nest, but when Mom flew in she put the stick across his back again...he wouldn't move. She flew off...then came back and that is when the camera was zooming in to try and get her #. Ok, I'm cautiously excited...and hopeful and a bit afraid. Going to be an interesting day. I'm not ignoring L & J...just sort of on maternity watch here.

Judith Hart

Suzanne ...Did you pick up any #'s on the band?

Suzanne

Mom on nest...Dad staying near her long periods of time...Dad building up nest wall with large stick and smaller ones. Both very alert to who or what is flying by nest. Dad has now flown. DNR is zooming in and out...as interested as I am!

Suzanne

Judith...I was guessing the same numbers as you...very blurry so I hope DNR had a way to get a better look. It will tell them a lot about MOM. Oh my...this is rather unbelievable.

Mavis

I am certainly on hopeful watch with the rest of you. One thing that perplexes me is that just before the eggs hatch on most the eagle cams I've watched..the nest begins to fill with food for the newly hatched eaglets. That is one sign that we have that a hatching is close. I do not see any food on the nest. I haven't been watching as much as the rest of you, so maybe there is food, but buried. Anyone know?

Suzanne

Mavis...no, I haven't seen any food, but I also haven't been paying as close attention as before. There may be food hidden. Don't know. I have a question for you being you've watched this before...once the eggs 'pip' or crack wide open, how long before the eaglets have the strength to wrigle free of the shell...and do Mom and Dad help them get free? I know that getting free of the shell is exhausting for the little ones. Any info you can share with me?

Judith Hart

DNR NEST...Thought I saw a completely open shell...can't say for sure what else I thought I saw, for it would be highly unusual.

Suzanne

Judith...I saw a completely open shell as well...then Mom sat down quickly.

Mavis

Suzanne...,can't answer that. Never saw M or D help...once as open as I THOUGHT I just saw with one of the eggs,..should be free within minutes...

Mr. John has probably watched many hatchings more intently than any of us. I hope he will shed some light on his past observations. IF that egg pipped..then the eaglet should make it...I THINK most fatalities occur after hatching. I can't believe those eggs were viable! I certainly hope for a wonderful ending to this drama!!

Mavis

I got a picture of that...but I missed the best shot where I THOUGHT I saw a baby eaglet still in the other half of the shell, I THOUGHT I saw 1/2 the egg shell removed ...not the top half or the bottom half..but the whole SIDE half. Not sure what I saw. The cam zoomed in almost too late to see even that..was only a fast glimpse

MMA

Around 10:00 CST today, the eagle at DNR left the nest. The camera zoomed in on the eggs. One is open and another has multiple cracks. A parent showed up and covered the eggs. Not long afterwards both seemed to be re-enforcing the nest.

Suzanne

Mavis...yes, it was the entire side half that was open. I didn't see the eaglet...Mom & Dad or DNR sort of come in at exactly the wrong moment to know for sure. MMA'a post is exactly the time and details of what I saw as well.

Suzanne

As for food being hidden, perhaps so. Last week they brought in a squirrel and a large bird. Did not see either of them eat it...and they just disappeared when I wasn't watching.

Judith Hart

DNR NEST... The eggs are about 56 days old, Right?
Now they all might hatch out the same day?
Sounds like a penguin or an emu...Very strange.

Suzanne

Judith...too funny! Who knows what is going to come out of these eggs??? If it's an emu they're in big trouble...that nest is not that large! Yes...56 days...am waiting on an email from the DNR with full info.

Suzanne

Also watch her white tail feathers...they are moving a lot as though there is something moving under them. She has never moved her tail feathers like that.

EaglesOnly

I've not seen it with eagles, but I have seen other birds, such as owls and sea hawks, where they have helped the baby out of the shell when it seems to be taking too long. Or maybe the baby is not making enough headway.

Mavis

Suzanne, I emailed you a copy of the picture I got. Like I said..I missed the best shot. It all happend too quickly. Am hoping for good results. This will go down in the books if all turns out with a happy ending!!

Suzanne

Thank you Mavis! Will check the email...isn't this something? Can't believe I'm watching such a thing...now if we have babies, my hope is that they can parent them well.

Suzanne

Mavis...as usual nothing came through. Try attaching it to the email I sent last night.

Joan

This is wonderful opportunity to see Nature at it's best. I watch from time to time each day- this is my 2nd season.

Suzanne

I missed part of Mom getting off nest...only saw open egg, shell, no eaglet...then a 2nd egg with a good size crack in it. Anyone else see what I missed?

Judith Hart

DNR NEST....well, she moved off the eggs and I do believe I saw nothing! A DUD!

Suzanne

Yeah Judith...afraid so. What I can't figure out is that when I saw the egg cracking this AM and it was quite open, there was grey showing...not a hollow egg. Think Mavis saw the same thing and got a picture...it's just not coming through on my email. But my heart is still with this pair.

Suzanne

MMA...please post again what you saw earlier. You had the time and details down to perfection.

Judith Hart

DNR NEST ...What I saw while you and Mavis were sleeping....She got off the eggs, I saw 2 whole eggs...1 broken in half..part of one half was a little smashed in the top. There is a slight chance, very slight, that there's a bird hiding under that smashed top.
When you saw the mothers tail wiggling, I have a feeling that was the chick sneaking out from underneath her and it TOOK OFF.
It was just about old enough to fly.

I'm still in my PJ's watching this...jammed some food down my throat..have to get to the store.
You and Mavis stand guard.

MMA

Around 10:00 CST today, the eagle at DNR left the nest. The camera zoomed in on the eggs. One is open and another has multiple cracks. A parent showed up and covered the eggs. Not long afterwards both seemed to be re-enforcing the nest.

At noon, I saw the parent get up and the camera zoomed in on the eggs. Must agree that there was no eaglet. I have lots of questions, but the most encompassing would be, "What happened?" Could it have been stillborn? The parent did seem more alert than what I have seen.

Suzanne

MMA...thank you for all the info. I saw grey in that egg when it was cracking, that I know...not white and hollow. So, I like you, have lots of questions. Didn't think about stillborn...is it under her and we can't see it? Still have second egg that is definitely cracked. Please keep in contact as I'm trying to stay on my laptop but must step away at times. THANKS! Oh...and yes MOM is definitely on high alert...rare for her.

Suzanne

Mavis...the email came through!! Thank you...just can't tell much from them can you? But I appreciate you taking the shots.

Suzanne

They made a switch and I missed it...looks like Dad on nest now. Anybody see it?

Mavis

What I want to know...is what is that tan/grey looking "blob" sitting on the nest next to her on her left side? Was watching before...don't know what it is...maybe nesting material?

Suzanne

Mavis...that is either a piece of hide with fur or part of a nest. It was brought in weeks ago and they have drug it back and forth trying to fit it into the nest. I know it looks like a baby eaglet and Mom picked it up this AM and placed it on the edge there. I've never been totally sure what it is ever since it arrived quite awhile ago.

Mavis

OK! THanks Suzanne. First time I noticed it was this morning...I don't go to the DNR site that much,

beamg

I have quickly caught up on all the comments after being "away" for a couple hours. I hate to put a damper on things but one of my thoughts this morning when I saw the big crack in the first egg was what I read in the Hornby eagle blog....the 2nd egg there "exploded" and no eaglet. My hopes have been that we would be witness to a miracle but that blog keeps going through my head and makes me think this will not be a happy ending. Sorry for those who don't want to read all this on the Alcoa site but it is VERY much eagle info and most of us want to share. Is that still mom on the DNR nest? I just want her to move so we can get a good look again!

At the Alcoa nest, all looks good, sounds good and I think we have no worries there. Justice looks so good sitting there with geese etc. sounding off all around.

Mavis, add my Happy Birthday wishes to those for your son! (don't think I said that before)


Suzanne

Pumpkin...have you been watching the goings on at the DNR site? Your thoughts.

Suzanne

beamg...Dad is on the nest now. I have thought the same things as you from that story. You know...even though this has been a crazy ride with these two eagles, I have come to love them...even with all their quirks. So, today is pretty sad for me as it doesn't look good. And I'm a realistic person...I knew this probably wouldn't turn out well, but my heart is still more than a little broken especially for these eagles. No one can say they didn't try and if they are indeed young, they just didn't have the experience to give up sooner. I admire their devotion...to their eggs and to each other. Dad even tried to fortify the nest this AM...bringing sticks to the wall. So, please, everyone, understand that this DNR nest is precious to us here...it's a sad day for us.

beamg

Yes, Suzanne, sad and all the while trying to be realistic. Ok, dad on the DNR nest. Not sure I'll ever get that straight but don't have to in order to "feel" for them. They WILL do better next time!

I don't see the river sparkling at the Alcoa nest and realized it's starting to be overcast here. I have 41° here, not bad at all. Oh, there goes the train!

Suzanne

beamg...meant to also say, yes, wish he would just get up so we can take a peak. I keep waiting for a DNR update email but they haven't said anything yet. Thanks for your interest in our nesting pair...it means a lot.

Suzanne

beamg...Dad is smaller of course, has a black spot on the top left side of head...has a more peaceful look when he looks at the camera. Mom is noticeably larger when they are side by side and she has prominent grey eyeshadow washed all across her eye area...when she looks at the camera she looks fierce! Ironically it is usually Dad on this nest.

Judith Hart

DNR NEST.. In my inexpert opinion, the sooner all the eggs crack, without chicks, the sooner the parents could possibly lay another clutch. They occasionally do that and it's still quite early.

Suzanne

Judith...yes, that's possible as most of the eagles here are just finishing up their nests. However, the last DNR email I got said that in cases like this it is highly unusual for them to have another hatch. BUT...this has been far from a normal situation and one the DNR hasn't seen just because they haven't had nestcams up...so it's anyone's guess. They just might...they have become much more devoted the last few days.

beamg

Yes, Judith! That would be the ideal situation. Another start this year and it's not too late since I don't think the MNBound nest has eggs yet. Who knows? Staying tuned for whatever unfolds.

Suzanne, I can't help but be captivated by the DNR nest! All of these cams are what bind us together regardless of anything that makes us different. Ties across state lines and even across country boarders all around the world. I have a feeling there are people watching who may never speak up and they are as hooked as the rest of us Eagleholics!

Suzanne

beamg...yes indeed! We all watch each others nests with delight and interest. Each is so very different and no matter what state you are in, we are all learning just from this great nestcam opportunity. I love L & J just as I have loved these rather juvenile pair here...MNBound nest is another entirely different story with a new Dad with the previous Mom...and no, they haven't laid any eggs but nest is getting beautiful and think Mom is close to laying her lst. And the audience to all of this is vast!

Sher

I was trying to remain optimistic that at lease ONE of the 3 eggs at the DNR nest would produce a lovely little eaglet...

Have to admire the perserverance and dedication of the parents...

Mavis..hope your son is having a Happy Birthday and "Happy Mothers Day" to you...

That's what I always wished my Mom when it was mine & my Sis' birthdays..because that was her REAL Mothers Day :)

Mavis

2:42 EST

Sher, that was such a sweet thing to say to me.."Happy Mother's Day"! Thank you.

DNR: M/D just repositioned...in MY opinion...it is just as beamg said. The egg probably exploded. I saw M/D step in sticky stuff and it clung to his/her foot. There is no and was never a chick (eaglet) in the egg. I think it is probably the case with the other two eggs as well.

Judith said it right...the sooner the eggs do whatever they are going to do..(explode), the sooner the parents can do what they need to do. As far as I can see, no life was lost..because none was there. The sadness is for the fruitless dedication these parents have shown. IN THE PROCESS of all of this, these two eagles have endeared themselves to a lot of viewers. The best realistic outcome would be for the drama to end quickly so these two beautiful eagles can get on with what comes next...whatever that is.

In looking in on the Alcoa nest...it is as beamg said...a quiet, peaceful afternoon and that is good.

I feel bad about the DNR nest, but it is good to come back home to Alcoa!

Suzanne

Mavis...Sher said the perfect greeting to you. Indeed Happy Mother's Day. On each of my son's birthdays I sit in the morning and relive what a joyful event took place on that day. I'm sure those same thoughts have been in your mind and your heart. Hard to believe how fast the years go by and then suddenly our babies have become adults. I hope your son has a fabulous Birthday and you have a day of fond remembrance.

Marilyn Byerly

I saw the broken egg this morning, looks like a crack in one of the other eggs, the one closest to web cam but one exciting thing happened this morning! The DNR was able to see the number on Justice's leg band! 529. They should now be able to trace where he came from and when. Actually all the nest repairs are not in vain, they will use it again next year and maybe they will wait until later in the year to lay their eggs. This was 2 months too early.

Marilyn Byerly

I did not notice I was on the Alcoa comment board, I was talking about the DNR pair in Minnesota. I have been watching both at the same time and got confused! :-) The Alcoa eagle eggs are just fine! I can hardly wait until they hatch!

Suzanne

Marilyn...thanks for the information. I was hoping the DNR would get a definite read on that number. I might be wrong, but I always thought the female was the banded one. Is it the male? Yes...may there be a healthy hatch in this pair's future. They got off to a rocky and impossible start didn't they? But what a dedicated pair they are. Again,thanks so much for the update.

Suzanne

Marilyn...how did you find out this information? I am signed up to get DNR updates via email about the nestcam but have only received one long ago. Would like to know where you can go to get the update you got.

John Nield

I have been searching for the nest location on Google maps. I think I found it. Is it between the propane farm and the river near an L shaped building?

Judith Hart

5:51 PM EST
Liberty sitting quietly on her eggs, listening to the honking geese and watching the snow melt in the field below.
Tomorrow is going to be a tough day with wind gusts up to 35MPH and snow.
She's calling out to Justice, she just flew off , he arrived and is now sitting.

Mavis

5:52 PM EST

Liberty is on the nest and it looks like the snow is about gone on the ground. I hear the geese returning from their morning flight..and the 5:50 train is on the tracks.

Liberty just called out to Justice that she was taking a break and then departed. Justice is now on the nest. This team works well together.

Mavis

John, I think you are describing it right. Mr. John gave us excellent description of the nest tree location and several of us know the location when we see it but I get lost in these details.

I think Chuck, JC, Rodj, and some of the others may be able to link you to the right place.

Mr. John may remember what post he gave us the details of the nest tree. Mr. John? Anyway..keep checking the posts and I'll see if someone can help you.

gregory

new thread

Mavis

@ John Nield in reference to the nest tree location, I just heard from JC..and he said to keep checking back. He thinks he has it written down somewhere and will post it a little later.

John Nield

Thanks. Will do Mavis.

Judith Hart

--------NEW THREAD----------

Kathryn

Last year was better. The camera is to close and the sound is terrible. I loved watching last year but it is frusterating this year.

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