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May 05, 2014

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gregory

from WEE ONE to ROTUND ONE!

R L ML

Yes Rudy is really growing. Just saw some serious wingersizing with J on the Alcoa branch for her to show off to. L had been there earlier doing some feeding, but then all were concentrated on something above before she flew off.

Coleen Perilloux Landry

Just heard that the little bird rescued from the hole in the nest has died. Part of life but nevertheless so sad.
Liberty was doing housekeeping again this morning, removing old food from the nest. I watched both parents on the nest for a while, something had them on alert. Beautiful day.

Judith Hart

MN DNR NEWS....Little Snap was euthanized..
The Raptor Center admitted the eaglet from the MNDNR cam on Friday May 2, allowing us to provide emergency support and care. Upon admission, diagnostic imaging showed the bird had suffered a severe injury to its elbow with bone loss resulting in a lack of integrity to the elbow joint. The bird was also suffering a systemic infection. Unfortunately, the eaglet's condition made it impossible for the bird to survive successfully in the wild. Furthermore, damaged joints are a major cause of ongoing discomfort for birds, even if kept in captivity.

Sadly, as a result, the most humane path forward for this eaglet was euthanasia. Such an outcome is never taken lightly and is only decided upon by a team of veterinarians after discussing all options.

We appreciate all the positivity and support that was shown to this eaglet and to our veterinarians as we cared for and treated this bird.

Wendy

I'm still glad The Raptor Center took Snap from the nest instead of leaving it there to suffer for who knows how long.

Joyce

The litte guy is now soaring with the Angels. Sure loved watching Rudy do the "Wingersizes". A little bit of a Diva showoff for Dad.

Fred Collins

Rotund One is gonna have trouble jumping let alone flying unless his rations are cut back or parents keep him from sleeping all the time.

Bea Griffore

Good afternoon everyone. Rudy is being fed by.....? L or J but I can't tell who. The wind has picked up so the nest is bobbing a bit.

I'm so sad to hear Snap had to be euthenized. Thanks for the report Judith. I'm glad too that they at least took her out of the nest so it wasn't a slow death. Hopefully the other 2 will thrive and be on their way to adulthood and have eaglets of their own someday.

Denny, thanks for the alert about the bluebirds starting to hatch.I checked their cam yesterday and could see one baby's beak poking out from under mom. That is so neat to watch!

The rosebreasted grosbeaks are at my feeder today! I have 2 males and only spotted 1 female so far. I need to get my hummingbird feeder out there! I also saw a Baltimore Oriole at the feeder but wasn't quick enough to get a picture of it. Hope it comes back. I should put out some orange slices and/or jelly for it. They have tried to eat at my hummingbird feeders in the past so I set out a container they could eat from easier. It's so amazing to watch the different birds out there! Sadly, I don't get bluebirds.

Lunch time.......bbl

gregory

OK-- here goes
I have never seen a Tanager. believe it or not, I live on 1/8 of an acre on the n.w. side of Atlanta, Georgia. when I moved here, we mowed dirt and dust. we are just inside the perimeter (285). our stomping grounds are the city of SMYRNA. BUT---
things are very different now. our yard is the pearl of the neighborhood. on one 70 foot hedge-- we have Brown Thrasher nest-3 chicks, then Robin- 3 chicks, then Cardinal, I don't know how many- I haven't looked. my bluebirds are a clutch of 5. today we got them mealworms. their load is heavy and in a few days as I slowly move their private feeder of live mealworms- it will be a few feet away as I sip a warm cup of coffee. then there is a SWIFT nest on the back eave of the house. don't know how many. on the porch (back) there are our CAROLINA WRENS- 3 . we always have the regular green humming birds- they get right in our face. for the first time -we had a brilliant RUBY THROAT for about a two weeks. I haven't seen him for a few days. soo what is the secret? an old timer taught me a few tricks one day. he said that I should not stake my tomatoes. a tomato is a vine and should scurry the ground. then he said-don't pick or mess with your ears too much. AND THEN--DONT FEED THE BIRDS (I do treat my bluebirds when I can afford it). then he went to scripture and said GOD feeds the birds. then he added make sure they have lots and lots of water and bird baths. we have 7 bird baths--we do not feed birds-- and we are smothered with birds all day. frogs too.

PLEASE don't hate me.

Cherrycarol

It is better that Snap didn't die a slow death. I think I just saw an oriole. & now 2 hummers fighting already. Do they eat regular bird feed. Got jelly but too many squirrels. Need to get a feeder for it. A beautiful day but sure is windy as usual.

Peggy Watson

This is my 3rd year watching the Alcoa eagles. Liberty and Justice are wonderful parents. It is interesting to watch how they are with 1 eaglet as opposed to 2 or 3. They seem to have spent alot more time in the nest with Rudy. Rudy appears to be a most beautiful eaglet and I am so very grateful to Alcoa for providing such a wonderful tool for all to see life with these birds.

gregory

I thought I saw an oriole once but someone told me they don't come here. hummies do not eat seed but they do feed their brood a high protein diet of small flying insects on the wing. adults drink only nectar as I understand. do not give your hummies the pre done red stuff. the mix is 1 to 4. you can sweeten it a little this time of year as they work so hard with mating and care of young. I have never sweetened mine. im cheap

Bea Griffore

gregory, your yard sounds like a bird haven! I feel I have to feed mine in order to see more than robins and sparrows. Just my thing, I guess.

Carol, your hummers are fighting already? I haven't seen any this spring yet but my feeder is out there. AND I had 2 orioles trying to eat at that feeder already! A couple years ago I had a couple orioles at the regular seed feeder. I had an oriole feeder years ago but now I can't find it. Figures since I have been trying to down size since putting our house on the market.

The bluebird cam - I checked this morning and only saw one that has hatched so far.

Rudy is taking a nap in the shadow of her parent and it's breezy. But that sunshine is SO nice!

gregory

BEA--

no joke! think about it--your neighbors are feeding the birds and so is nature! WATER is scarce! birds don't like ponds and large bodies of water. they piddle and put in puddles after a storm. right? suffer the parting of the feeder and look for vintage bird baths. watch your pocket. some people know. just walk away. get old baths-if it has made it twenty or forty years--it will carry on. the first frost -turn them over so they don't crack. if you like the bath ==repair! ALWAYS--keep the biggest bath and put an element in so the water cannot freeze. a bird will thirst to death before freezes. MOST IMPORTANT do not buy fancy stuff bird baths are for the damn bird. shallow--GOOGLY IT--SHALLOW!!!! one or two inches no more preferably less

gregory

just ask yourself water or food

you can go more than two months without food

only three days without water.

gregory

another analogy

every one stays at the pool or the waters edge. only once or twice and then for just a minute--they go for a bite of food. WATER is GODS wonder

Cherrycarol

Rudy just stretched out her wing & u can see those pin feathers coming in. Rudy you need to get up more so we can see you!!

gregory

go to your local party store and get a few red clown noses that snap on your nose.. be still for a while and close to the humming bird feeder. don't be afraid and don't move too much. tell me how it goes. you'll love it

Jackie Scott , Cape Coral FL

My 'birthday bobblehead' is growing too fast for my liking. Can't believe a month has gone by already.

Cherrycarol

Both L & J in the nest for awhile now. & feeding Rudy again.

Coleen Perilloux Landry

Soon Rudy will be too fat to walk, much less fly. He is even lying down to eat.

Mavis

Gregory, sounds like you have your bird habitat down to a fine science. I don't do the bird bath thing...lots of water on the farm and standing water makes for more mosquitoes. I may buy one and see if it attracts attention. I think you are probably right about the summer feed...plenty of seed and insects here...but if I don't maintain the feeders as a gathering place, I don't think I would have ever seen the Rose Breasted Grosbeaks and they were stunning. I have pictures of Judy's tanagers on my FB page...and I am truly amazed at their beauty. So unusual for the female to be as pretty...if not prettier...than the male. They were a true delight to see. Winter time is another story...they have a hard enough time during a bad season to hunt for food. I like to keep it readily available.

Rudy does need to go on a diet...she will never have "lift off" if she doesn't. I watched her stand up yesterday...she has to swing her body just so..and on the forward swing...she locks her knees and stands up! Doesn't stay up too long...just too much weight to carry! She is so funny. And she is so used to being catered to. Now the Berry eaglet is another story...that sweet baby will leave the nest ready to hunt. He will on occassion, mantle a stick. He has been on his own so much of the time....I think he will be a survivor. One of the handsomest eaglets I have seen in a long time.

Been upset all day about Snap. In my mind, I can't come to terms that everything that could have be done, was done. Just a feeling I can't shake, although I know I am probably wrong. I wasn't following that nest...and now do not want to follow any DNR nest. My feelings do not make any sense...but they are my feelings. Seems like most of the 3-egg nests have lost one of their babies. Guess that is what Judy meant about the third egg for insurance. This past winter was cruel for everyone...animals and man.

You gotta hand it to L and J...they are darn good at what they do. Sometimes, its the little things that mean the most...and if Mr. John had not put the straw out...well, I just feel good that he did and Rudy is nice and fat!

Mavis

8:43 PM EDT

I think it is Justice on the nest....anyway, looks like a mouse or something small was fed to Rudy. Just like Coleen said...Rudy just lays there and eats.

I hear an owl...now that bothers me...they are night creatures. Glad L or J stays on the nest with Rudy at night. Rudy is getting to such a size that she is pretty safe from predators, but you never know.

Coleen Perilloux Landry

I think two of my little eagles and their parents have gone. They were hatched between Christmas and New Years. I have followed the parents for 5 years now and they have been in the same swamp for 10 years according to the swamp manager. In 2012 Hurricane Isaac destroyed their nest and when they returned a few weeks after the hurricane they had to start over. I watched them build their nest stick by stick in a tree only 10 yards from their old one. They are very good parents and stay with their eaglets until everyone can survive on their own, but until the last day, they all returned to the nest at night to sleep. Here is a photo I took of them shortly before they fledged. http://www.pbase.com/image/155516423. I know the parents will be back in the fall and hopefully one day the babies will return also and make a nest. They knew my whistle and a parent would follow my car for a ways when I would leave.

Judith Hart

Coleen, Could you notice a size difference in your two eaglets? Do you have any idea where they go until fall?

Cherrycarol

Good Morning. Another nice day. Hope it's not as windy as yesterday. Mom & Rudy in the nest now. HAGDay everyone!

Coleen Perilloux Landry

Judith, I do not notice a size difference. I do not know where the babies go. In the past three years one of the babies returned and made a nest a mile away from the parents. This year there was only one eaglet in the nest. That pair was very good, too, in fact I watched them for hours a few weeks ago trying to coax the little one to fly. Someone told me that they migrate to Canada. The male arrives back here first and two or three days later, the female arrives. I have not named them because it makes it harder when something happens. I see Rudy on the nest by himself/herself and it is windy.

Coleen Perilloux Landry

Rudy is alone on the nest still and being good, perhaps because he is too fat to move. The Decorah nest is the only nest with three eaglets now and one seems to be much farther along than the others. It already has all its dark feathers. I think the largest eaglet is the Berry College one and as much as I griped about it always being alone, it seems to be well adjusted and enjoys looking at the people on the campus. There's still some stormy spring weather around as is evidenced by the movement of the nests in the wind. In southeast Louisiana we are already warming up with 85 in the forecast today. Miss my crispy spring mornings and not looking forward to June 1 when the weather forecasters start screaming "hurricane season".

Darlene Nichols

........my whole post disappeared !!!!!

gregory

MAVIS--

never ever never standing water!!!
baths are changed out daily--every one! our yard is our labor. come on up and sit on the porch. might not let you see my nasty kitchen- but you have a place on the porch!!

gregory

DARLENE-- one of my post went away day before yesterday. it has happened only once before.

Mavis

Darlene...I've had that happen and my first thought is: "Mr. John has finally banned me"! Don't know what causes it to happen...you sure it didn't show up on the last thread?

I can't see the Fort Saint Vrain nest on my iPad. Today was the first time I tried. Anyone else??

Gregory...do you serve pina coladas on your porch? We all may show up!

I see a black squirrel on the nest...I THINK. It may be a big black rat but I think I see a fuzzy tail. Looks fresh and ready to serve. Rudy will be 5 weeks old tomorrow. Eaglets do not usually get their "legs" until 5 to 7 weeks of age. The legs are not strong enough untill then to support their weight. In Rudy's case...it may be the full 7 weeks before she was walk with ease. Right now...it is a swinging maneuver that gets her to her feet for a PS.

gregory

I forgot to mention the MOCKINGBIRD on a perpendicular hedge. I will evict a mockingbird if I can. once an egg is laid- my hands are tied. I wanted to cut both hedges back-- caint do. four nests. have to wait for fledging. sux.
mocking birds are extremely aggressive. love their song- this year it sings the frogs too. but very aggressive towards me , the dog ,and all other birds. ten years ago I tried to kill the resident mocking bird. shot it with a sling shot so as to make it sport. finally hit hit it fter a few days-- but it landed in bea's yard over a fence. the bird floundered and hurt my soul- so I climbed the fence to end its misery and fell hard on the ground. I was hurt bad and could not move for a few minutes. no one to help. i was able to finish the nasty job with mercy. but when I hit the ground--the first thing that went through my mind was-- IT IS A SIN TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD. from atticus to scout. I have never tried to kill one since! that dying bird damn near killed me!

Coleen Perilloux Landry

Good for the Mockingbird. I cannot believe you would even tell that story.

Darlene Nichols

.....well never let it be said that I won't respond to a challenge ! HA !.....of course I can't remember much of what I said but a few random thoughts.......Colleen...your eagles do a kind of reverse migration ? Canada for the winter?.....after living the summer in Louisiana ? UGH!........Mavis......I feel as you do that Mn. DNr seems to have acted rather hastily......we have the marvelous story of Phoenix to compare.....maybe that raptor center wasn't up to the job......but I feel suspicious of Mn DNR......uneasy......I'm not opposed to calling our baby eagle "Rudy" but I really think "Pudge" would have been more appropriate. If there wqas anything of substance in that post, I"ve forgotten what it was. I know this stream of consciousness was drivel but I was determined to try to post a comment.....the other one was more meaningful.......you know what happens !

Mavis

Dang, Darlene...you got a lot in that post! Not taking any chances of this one escaping ya! As for the reverse migration...if I had wings, I would fly to Canada to escape the FL heat and humidity. Bet Coleen can say the same for LA. (wonder why the abbreviation for Louisiana is not LO instead of LA).

Gregory...I'm surprised you would tell such an awful story too. You lost so many points with that tale that you may never dig out of the hole you fell in. :( Just wish that mockingbird had placed a few well placed and hard bonks before you killed it....you deserved at least that much AND more!! JMO.

Judith Hart

I was thinking about our Rudy and how oversized she is. Imagine if she grew to twice the size of Liberty...the shadow she will cast. Rudy might be the first eaglipse of the sun.

I think I'm losing it!

Mavis

Yep, Judy...you did...and I think I know who found it!

R L ML

Just reading today's posts and wanted to comment on a couple of them. Coleen you mention Decorah now being the only one with 3 eaglets. I check in occasionally on the Pittsburgh Hays eagle cam and it also has 3. The youngest on that nest hatched on April 2. Rudy and the oldest on the Decorah nest also hatched on April 2 so I like to compare them.
Mavis and Darlene you talked some of MN DNR being hasty. I have no knowledge of how the decision was made, but I have posted in comments on Nesters Nest a bit more about the injury to Snap that you might want to check out. I found this in the comments on their Facebook page. They were answering questions of how the injury occurred.

gregory

yup-- I did it-- I thought my recollection would explain how I did something very very wrong. i wrote how bad I felt and I also then shared how my heart had been injured for a very long time ( I guess to this day ). the consequences linger .

I must have left out a few verbs. I've read the post again. I think it is plain- I learned a lesson -- a spiritual lesson. funny how people judge even after something has been learned I've been so plain.

I do things better now. I guess ya'll do too.

gregory

MAVIS-- that was the point!! go back and read my post. killing that bird almost killed me!!! it was life changing!!

Coleen Perilloux Landry

No, no, Darlene, the eagles come back here at the end of September, early October. They leave Louisiana in May for Canada. One pair is already gone.

gregory

I am a good guy! I screwed up - I repented- I never did that sort of thing again. I doubt (with absolute humility) that many have striven to promote life as we have. even though I may have foolishly put my life in danger to get rid of that ONE bird ten years ago--I have also done numerous other stupid things to promote this habitat. I AM TIRED and I am going to bed. good night.

gregory

AND I WILL SLEEP JUST FINE. toodles.

Mavis

R L ML...I read your comments...still believe as I do. I didn't say they were hasty...I said, "Been upset all day about Snap. In my mind, I can't come to terms that everything that could have be done, was done. Just a feeling I can't shake, although I know I am probably wrong. I wasn't following that nest...and now do not want to follow any DNR nest. My feelings do not make any sense...but they are my feelings." Your knowledge of this ..or the comments you read, does not change the way I feel. Do you really think they would come out and say, "we could have done more"? I think if they had not rescued against their wishes...I would have felt better. Like I said, I am probably wrong...my feelings do not make sense...but that is how I feel. I have to say...a lot of comments on that page were upsetting and I do not wish to go back. One poster was upset that they removed Snap...wanted the eaglet to die on the nest...it would have been a learning experience to see if they ate it...or fed it to the other eaglets...or just carried it off. Was upset because now Snap will not be a part of the circle of life. Saw a lot of posts that were not easy to read. I do not plan to watch any more DNR nests.

Talk about survival of the fittest!! Lord, don't get me started on that subject...I will match anyone word for word. Phoenix...the bird no one thought would survive those horrible burns he suffered in that wildfire...that poor baby has gone thru a lot and SURVIVED! He has grown his feathers...talons are like new...he is nothing short of amazing! Would have died without all the care he has gotten. He would have died without help and it would have been said..."survival of the fittest"...or "nature is cruel"...or "that is nature"....well...I think Phoenix is at the top of the ladder on being the fittest!!! Injuries or accidents do not alter the genes of the best of the best. That is just my opinion. Oh...does anyone not know of "Freedom"...that awesome eagle that flies at events and is used to educate people about eagles? Like I said..don't get me started on the "only the fittest survive".

Gregory...you said you fell and was hurt bad...that bird ____ almost killed you. Thought you were talking about your body...not your soul. Yes...I hope we all change as we grow and become wiser.

Cherrycarol

This nasty wind & river has taken a life already. The boat went thru lock & dam 14, where we go watch the eagles. Up from Alcoa. 5 in the boat 1 they can't find. Not good to be in a boat when it's this windy. Been there done it NOT GOOD! The boat is stuck in the lock & dam & how those 4 guys made it thru is remarkable. WIND go away!!

Cherrycarol

85 tomorrow. Mom trying to feed Rudy & she must be full. Didn't want any!

Mavis

Carol...that is an understatement...Rudy STAYS full!!

How dd the boat tip over? Or whatever happened? That is terrible. I hope they find him alive. Maybe he is downstream and made it to a shoreline. I hope so. Keep us in the loop. I don't like being in a boat when the water is choppy...scares me.

Mavis

Mr. John...were all those pictures on Alcoa FB page taken today??

I saw a helicopter...Alcoa's??

Does the NV cam pan? I thought you said that one could pan. If it does...can you pan the flooding below the nest for us to see? Those are awesome pictures!! A lot of wildlife below the tree.

Mavis

P.S.

Mr. John...I wish you would seriously consider a calendar with 12 or more of this year's favorite pictures. Would make super Christmas presents!! I would buy some.

Coleen Perilloux Landry

The Mississippi River is swift and heavy at this time of year. I am sorry those people chose to go out in it.

Cherrycarol

NEW THREAD---- THEY HAVEN'T FOUND THE GUY YET & HIS WIFE & SON WAS IN THE BOAT.

R L ML

Mavis In reading JUdith's post I see that the Iowa and Illinois DNR's were in on the rescue so guess they are better than the MN Dnr.

amberdawn

Gregory, when we know better, we do better. We've all done things in life we'd be ashamed to re-count.

Anne Armstrong

What a beautiful family!

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